EV Hostility?

[McRat]

a number of states have already implemented a similar tax and more are considering adding them.

Yeah, I was just in Daytona (got to drive on the 24hr Rolex layout, 31° banking is bad-arse) and I paid a huge amount of road taxes. Or were those tolls? I get them confused since they all come out of the same paycheck.

 

[MarcusMaximus]

I can't be certain but I don't think that smearing any group of people with such a broad brush is wise to do, I bet that you can find many on the far left, socialist leaning types who are probably vehemently opposed to private ownership of any luxury vehicle.

I'm sure you can. Generally speaking, there's enough people in the world that you can likely find somebody that believes absolutely anything.

At any rate, point being: my statement was largely informed by pro-Republican, pro-Trump media. And, honestly, a lot of that makes sense. The overall Republican stance on climate change(I guess I have to point out this applies to the party generally, not every single person who identifies as "Republican" individually) currently is that it is 1. not real, 2. not caused by man or 3. not harmful. And if you believe any one of those three, then the $7500 tax credit(plus $2,500 rebate in CA) for buying a car that doesn't produce CO2, is absurdly unfair, so some resentment would be called for. I know I'd get pissed off if, say, anybody who bought a $100k+ gas-powered sports car got a check from the government for $10k because, say, someone thought the increased acceleration caused the earth to rotate slightly faster, reducing warming.

 

[Magomboman]

This is a really good point. I long ago realized that perhaps people think BMW drivers are jerks because people tend to act like jerks to BMW drivers... It is a self-fulfilling prophecy; we tend to do to others as they do to us. Other drivers were a lot more courteous to me when I drove a Mazda.

Funny thing is when I drive any one of my other cars they are less courteous and act more like a jerk whereas, drive my MS I get thumbs up and act of driving kindness to pull in or out of traffic amazing.

 

[kort677]

I'm sure you can. Generally speaking, there's enough people in the world that you can likely find somebody that believes absolutely anything.

At any rate, point being: my statement was largely informed by pro-Republican, pro-Trump media. And, honestly, a lot of that makes sense.

so you let the media mold your opinions, that explains a lot.

The overall Republican stance on climate change(I guess I have to point out this applies to the party generally, not every single person who identifies as "Republican" individually) currently is that it is 1. not real, 2. not caused by man or 3. not harmful. And if you believe any one of those three, then the $7500 tax credit(plus $2,500 rebate in CA) for buying a car that doesn't produce CO2, is absurdly unfair, so some resentment would be called for. I know I'd get pissed off if, say, anybody who bought a $100k+ gas-powered sports car got a check from the government for $10k because, say, someone thought the increased acceleration caused the earth to rotate slightly faster, reducing warming.

this I would have to file under "whatever". you claim to have libertarian leanings yet you don't speak as a libertarian. I guess this is what happens when you parrot the crap the media puts out.

 

[kort677]

Yeah, I was just in Daytona (got to drive on the 24hr Rolex layout, 31° banking is bad-arse) and I paid a huge amount of road taxes. Or were those tolls? I get them confused since they all come out of the same paycheck.

there aren't too many tolls north or east of orlando. I didn't know that they allowed access onto the track, did you leave enough juice in the car to make it to the SpC?

 

[MarcusMaximus]

so you let the media mold your opinions, that explains a lot.




this I would have to file under "whatever". you claim to have libertarian leanings yet you don't speak as a libertarian. I guess this is what happens when you parrot the crap the media puts out.

Speak as a libertarian? I don't believe anything in my comment violated the NAP or anything...

 

[arcus]

Guys, this is getting ever-so-slightly off-topic...

 

[MarcusMaximus]

Guys, this is getting ever-so-slightly off-topic...

Fair. Disengaging.

 

[McRat]

there aren't too many tolls north or east of orlando. I didn't know that they allowed access onto the track, did you leave enough juice in the car to make it to the SpC?

Naw, I flew into Orlando, and drove a rental to Daytona. Seemed most the highways were toll roads. Cadillac was nice enough to let us beat the snot of out of their cars. Sadly, they put 140mph speed limiters on them.

 

[rnortman]

Personally, I would just back away from any idiot who appears hostile. I would NEVER race anyone because 1.) I could lose and I don't want the SOB to go around trashing Teslat, 2.) I'm the one that would get the traffic citation??, and 3.) If I won, it just might ticke the guy off so much he would really be hostile.

This is the only sensible thing to do, even if they don't seem violently hostile at first. Things can escalate quickly.

For my part, I'm mostly worried about people keying my car -- or maybe that police will be more likely to pull me for speeding or whatever because "I can afford it". Just about anything else I can ignore.

 

[jerry33]

I've had one instance of hostility in 4.5 years (16 if you include the Prius driving), and that was from some 80 year old lady during an event. As I live where there should be a lot of it, it doesn't seem to be much of an issue--or perhaps I scare people.

 

[Darmie]

Just the normal fun stuff from Co workers.

Hey Darmie, I have a track you can race on.....

 

[AB4EJ]

No. I have plain CO “Adopt a Shelter Pet” tags. Hmm, maybe they were anti-pet-adoption people.

Cool shelter pet. I've had a bunch of 'em (2 now). There is no better dog.

 

[AB4EJ]

I talked to quite a number of people about my Model S in the past week(including giving one person a test drive).... they have been intrigued and amazed. No negative vibes so far. (Of course, I spent the last weekend at a total nerd conference )(where I was right at home and fit right in), so what can I say...

 

[MarcusMaximus]

Just the normal fun stuff from Co workers.

Hey Darmie, I have a track you can race on.....
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Oh, along those lines, when I was stuck in the infamous Eclipsocolypse at the Corning Supercharger, there were a couple trucks that had to go through the drive-through bank in the parking lot and shook their heads and laughed at us.

EDIT: The people in the trucks shook their heads and laughed. I did not partake in LSD.

 

[Canuck]

I got "EV hostility" for my brake lights recently. Admittedly, I like to take off fast and then let regen slow me down. When I do that on a windy highway it looks like I'm riding the brakes even though I don't touch them at all. I recently had a souped up Camaro pull in front of me then flash his brakes a number of times, which was telling me about how much he thought I was riding the brakes. I said it my head "it's regen you ignorant ICE-head" but I really wish I could control regren from activating the brake lights so easily.

 

[kort677]

there aren't too many tolls north or east of orlando. I didn't know that they allowed access onto the track, did you leave enough juice in the car to make it to the SpC?

mr prsist, please explain your disagree on this post? is it unfactual?

 

[Doug_G]

I've rarely had any negative comments. The funniest one was when I drove my Roadster to the local mall to buy groceries. A guy walking by said, "You live near here?" "Uh, yeah.". "Well that's good." "Why is that?" "So you can make it home." "Oh, I'm on my way to Montreal." (I wasn't really... but I had more than enough charge to get there.)

For a long time there was a meme on our local car club forum, "not in my lifetime." Referring to my car. They've come around. Part of the change came when I took my Model S drag racing with them, and beat most of them handily. But that's all changed. Now several of them have their own EVs; the latest addition was a Bolt. These are "car guys", and they're buying EVs.

 

[Pezpunk]

had a hillbilly in a pickup truck with a bunch of awful conservative hatemongering bumper stickers (and of course a confederate flag) give me the finger and try to run me off the road a couple months back. he was also motioning at me to pull over, i guess he wanted to fight me?? haha what a neanderthal.

i was able to put him about a mile in my rear view in no time. i was speeding like crazy, but i felt like it was the most reliable way to get away from him.

 

[modamoda]

One of my friend's HOA was trying to charge him 8 USD/kWh - for using electricity in the garage.
(I'm not joking, it's eight dollar per kilo watt hour)

Well, it was negotiated well later, but it was enough to scare someone owns EV.