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Wiki Everything you wanted to know about Intelligent Octopus But Were Afraid To Ask

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Why write this post?
A lot of people are starting to get interested in IO. I don't think Octopus do a very good job of spelling out the benefits in their website. They have some FAQs, but the same questions keep coming up over and over on the forums.

What is it?
In a nutshell, IO is a split tariff that gives you a cheap off-peak rate for charging your EV and other electrical items in the household, including home batteries.

Isn’t that the same as Octopus Go or Go Faster?
The principle is the same, but in exchange for some benefits which we’ll explain, you allow Octopus to control the timing of your EV charge, so they can choose low carbon intensity and/or cheap wholesale priced time slots.

So I’m not in control of my charge? I don’t like the sound of that!
Well yes…and no. You’re in control of how much to charge and when you want the car to be ready, just like you would be normally. Within those parameters, you’re allowing Octopus to control which half-hour slots the car chooses to get to that target % charge. And you can always override IO if you want to “bump charge” through the day.

OK, but what are the benefits you mentioned for this trade off?
First of all, you get a larger guaranteed off-peak window for using household appliances and charging home batteries, etc. It’s six hours between 23:30-05:30. Go, for example, is a fixed 4 hour window.
In addition, when IO schedules your EV charging slots it sometimes creates schedules that fall outside of the fixed, six hour window. If that happens your EV charging and all your household use in these extra-slots is also charged at off-peak rates.
I have frequently had schedules give me seven or more hours of off-peak rates. On one occasion, I had a total of ten hours of off-peak rates.

Am I eligible?
You need a smart meter and a compatible car and/or charger. Since you’re reading this here, I assume you’ve got or are thinking of getting a Tesla. IO works with the Tesla API to create the charging schedules. The advantage of this is that IO will work with any* home charger. If you have a charger with smart features, you need to disable them so that the charger acts as a dumb switch. IO will control everything via Tesla’s API to start and stop your charging.
*Even your granny charger - but you need to tell IO what the max throughput is when you go through setup so that it can work out your schedules properly.

Some of this sounds too good to be true.
Phantom drain caused by having smart charging enabled in the Octopus app has been fixed as of 30th August 2022. One small side effect appears to be that schedules sometimes take longer to appear in the app after plugging in.

Further questions (to be updated in the main thread body once the edit timer on this post expires)

I have two EVs, can I charge the other while on IO?

Not with IO scheduling the charging, but you can charge any other car in the fixed 23:30-05:30 off peak window or at any other time at peak prices.

What are the rates etc?
Octopus do a decent job of explaining the peak and off-peak rates along with contracts etc. Head over to their pages to discover that.

I asked for a target % of x, but I got less than x.
There are two or three reasons for this.

The first, most common reason, is that Tesla reports battery % differently depending on where you look. The API (that IO uses) reports the gross battery %. This is generally fixed but can fluctuate very slightly. The Tesla app shows usable %. Apps like Teslamate and Teslafi can display both. Quite often, there is a delta of 2-3% which may be down to battery temp or other factors. This usable % will often be recovered as the battery warms up during a drive.

Some users have reported charging % being way off, perhaps 10% or more. This could be down to an error in the onboarding process. Some of the charger database entries incorrectly assume the charger you are onboarding is the 11kW version, without actually saying so in the charger description. The Andersen A2 was an early example of this. If you suspect this may be the case, the easiest thing to do is go through the on-boarding again and choose "Generic 7.4kW charger". It won't affect your functionality on IO in any way.

Lastly, it has to be mentioned that occasionally IO just craps out. It may be down to a comms error, a server error at Octopus' end, or just reasons. IO is a beta product and it's wise to expect one or two quirks from time to time
 
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First night on IO and had the same issues - set to 80% but reached 64 at 1:30 then drained to 60 by morning!🤔
Does IO attempt to wake lots of Teslas at the same time to restart charging? How much load would that put on the servers?
... and now it's started again at 11:30 - 12:00 which is a pain as that pulls power from the PV batteries as well as the grid meaning we're going to use peak rates to run the house!
 
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Did you have any problems last night? It seems that a lot of people (me included) had problems judging by the posts here this morning. So its strange that some experience these problems and some don't. I wonder if the issues might be location specific?
60% requested on both the iO app and tesla.
Stopped charging at 50%, sometime during the night.
Becoming a common issue with mine.
Whilst a mid afternoon smart charge is frowned upon, at least I can keep an eye on it.
Otherwise, it'll be a case of simply removing the car from the app and reconnecting a few times a month.
 
Did you have any problems last night? It seems that a lot of people (me included) had problems judging by the posts here this morning. So its strange that some experience these problems and some don't. I wonder if the issues might be location specific?
My charge worked OK last night. MY located in London, with my Ohme Home Pro charger connected to IO. Plugged in around 8pm, charging started as normal, and then stopped within a minute (as usual) and I could see that a schedule had been created in the Ohme app. Only needed a little top up to 80% and that's what was delivered, I think finishing before midnight.

I have had trouble waking the car up from the Tesla app this morning. Around 8am I couldn't get it to wake up at all, so got in to the car to make sure it was connected to my home wifi signal. Since then I have been able to connect with the app, but a slower connection time than normal as the car wakes up.
 
I really don't get these continual posts about mis-timings, this is a very simple process!
  • Use IO as it is designed but with one exception to avoid the initial plug-in charge - stop that manually via the Tesla app.
  • No need to schedule the Tesla app to only start charging at 23.30 (which some people do)
On this basis it works perfectly EVERY time for me and has done since January 2022.
It is a very simple process, correct....when it works.
IO does appear to be not without a few glitches...or is it the Tesla app...or both ?
 
Mine didn’t charge, checked Octopus app about midnight before going to bed and saw a charging schedule to start at 1230. Woke up this morning car still at 34% I plugged in with. I’m charging it now to 60% I have to leave early tomorrow to get to SC appointment, can’t risk no charge tonight.
 
So the interesting point is, what causes you to charge without issues, where as many other people experience regular or intermittent issues?
Compatible car & Zappi 7kWh charger set to 'Fast' without any schedules or restrictions, no schedules on the car or Tesla app and the only 'setting' in the IO app is departure time 05.30/100% SOC (& normally 80% or 90% on the Tesla app).

Since Jan 2022 I've always stopped the peak plug-in charge when the rate on the Tesla app reaches 7kWh which is normally ~10-15 seconds after starting. Schedules used to appear quite soon after but of late they can take hours (but always do come). In every other respect I have followed exactly what Octopus ask us to do & I would expect there are plenty of other people who also use IO without any issues.
 
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Popped out to car to find it had stopped charging at 46% (limit set to 60%). I had started the charge from the ’Bump Charge’ feature in the Octopus app earlier this evening. Opened the Octopus app and it couldn’t load up the device page and eventually crashed out to the app login screen. Never seen it do that. For tonight only I’ve turned off smart charging and set the Tesla schedule to start charging at 2330 and I will wake up tomorrow to see what happened. I’ve enough charge now to at least get to my SC appointment in the morning.
 
Having issue waking car in Tesla app. IO in full control but clearly not able to start a charge this evening. Luckily I checked and was able to manually wake up using unlock doors via Bluetooth as in range and IO started the charge.

Seems like a Tesla server side issue…
 
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Having issue waking car in Tesla app. IO in full control but clearly not able to start a charge this evening. Luckily I checked and was able to manually wake up using unlock doors via Bluetooth as in range and IO started the charge.

Seems like a Tesla server side issue…
Woke up this morning and couldn’t connect via the Tesla app, as happened yesterday as well.
judging by the tesla app info it went offline at a similar time as the previous night.
opened a door and everything sprung into life again, should have tried the Bluetooth lock and unlock…..didn’t think of that