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Why write this post?
A lot of people are starting to get interested in IO. I don't think Octopus do a very good job of spelling out the benefits in their website. They have some FAQs, but the same questions keep coming up over and over on the forums.

What is it?
In a nutshell, IO is a split tariff that gives you a cheap off-peak rate for charging your EV and other electrical items in the household, including home batteries.

Isn’t that the same as Octopus Go or Go Faster?
The principle is the same, but in exchange for some benefits which we’ll explain, you allow Octopus to control the timing of your EV charge, so they can choose low carbon intensity and/or cheap wholesale priced time slots.

So I’m not in control of my charge? I don’t like the sound of that!
Well yes…and no. You’re in control of how much to charge and when you want the car to be ready, just like you would be normally. Within those parameters, you’re allowing Octopus to control which half-hour slots the car chooses to get to that target % charge. And you can always override IO if you want to “bump charge” through the day.

OK, but what are the benefits you mentioned for this trade off?
First of all, you get a larger guaranteed off-peak window for using household appliances and charging home batteries, etc. It’s six hours between 23:30-05:30. Go, for example, is a fixed 4 hour window.
In addition, when IO schedules your EV charging slots it sometimes creates schedules that fall outside of the fixed, six hour window. If that happens your EV charging and all your household use in these extra-slots is also charged at off-peak rates.
I have frequently had schedules give me seven or more hours of off-peak rates. On one occasion, I had a total of ten hours of off-peak rates.

Am I eligible?
You need a smart meter and a compatible car and/or charger. Since you’re reading this here, I assume you’ve got or are thinking of getting a Tesla. IO works with the Tesla API to create the charging schedules. The advantage of this is that IO will work with any* home charger. If you have a charger with smart features, you need to disable them so that the charger acts as a dumb switch. IO will control everything via Tesla’s API to start and stop your charging.
*Even your granny charger - but you need to tell IO what the max throughput is when you go through setup so that it can work out your schedules properly.

Some of this sounds too good to be true.
Phantom drain caused by having smart charging enabled in the Octopus app has been fixed as of 30th August 2022. One small side effect appears to be that schedules sometimes take longer to appear in the app after plugging in.

Further questions (to be updated in the main thread body once the edit timer on this post expires)

I have two EVs, can I charge the other while on IO?

Not with IO scheduling the charging, but you can charge any other car in the fixed 23:30-05:30 off peak window or at any other time at peak prices.

What are the rates etc?
Octopus do a decent job of explaining the peak and off-peak rates along with contracts etc. Head over to their pages to discover that.

I asked for a target % of x, but I got less than x.
There are two or three reasons for this.

The first, most common reason, is that Tesla reports battery % differently depending on where you look. The API (that IO uses) reports the gross battery %. This is generally fixed but can fluctuate very slightly. The Tesla app shows usable %. Apps like Teslamate and Teslafi can display both. Quite often, there is a delta of 2-3% which may be down to battery temp or other factors. This usable % will often be recovered as the battery warms up during a drive.

Some users have reported charging % being way off, perhaps 10% or more. This could be down to an error in the onboarding process. Some of the charger database entries incorrectly assume the charger you are onboarding is the 11kW version, without actually saying so in the charger description. The Andersen A2 was an early example of this. If you suspect this may be the case, the easiest thing to do is go through the on-boarding again and choose "Generic 7.4kW charger". It won't affect your functionality on IO in any way.

Lastly, it has to be mentioned that occasionally IO just craps out. It may be down to a comms error, a server error at Octopus' end, or just reasons. IO is a beta product and it's wise to expect one or two quirks from time to time
 
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Excellent, many thanks. Researching further it seems that the Zappi left in fast mode will also work, although Octopus support is still advising that the Zappi isn't officially supported yet. I think what they actually mean is that they're still working on the integration whereby it will still work on ECO+ without the need to toggle to fast mode. Looks like I'm covered either way, cheers!
If you have something like home assistant it is easy to toggle between fast/eco+ automatically but this is a hack and it needs formal integration from myenergi to work properly.

Having said that, with the changes to the seg rate it becomes irrelevant because it will be advantageous to only charge the car overnight and export any solar you can.
 
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Yes thank you. As it seems to be a bit of a moving feast, I just wanted to get some insights into the latest situation. Cheers
I’m one of MyEnergi’s beta testers and on the pending IO beta test group. The native Zappi IO integration is currently in alpha testing, however they’re hoping the beta testing will start soon™.

In the meantime, as you have a Tesla, you can sign up using the Tesla integration and use the Zappi in Fast mode. When selecting Tesla as your vehicle, the Zappi comes up as one of the charger options.

If you’re on the more techie side, you can use HomeAssistant to integrate it further. In my case, I have the Zappi set to Eco+ with a scheduled boost 2330-0700. An automation turns on IO Smart charge in the evening and then turns it off again in the morning. IO target SoC is (currently, will probably up it when weather turns) 50% whilst car SoC limit is 80%. This means the car will charge from IO slots between 2330-0700 to 50%, however can still use solar surplus charging during the day to get up to 80%. I’m not overly fussed if the car doesn’t charge from IO slots prior to 2330, as as long as the car is plugged in you still get the off-peak rate, even if the car is unable to charge. I do it this way as I also have a house battery that isn’t easily controlled so I won‘t discharge this into the car.
 
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If you have something like home assistant it is easy to toggle between fast/eco+ automatically but this is a hack and it needs formal integration from myenergi to work properly.

Having said that, with the changes to the seg rate it becomes irrelevant because it will be advantageous to only charge the car overnight and export any solar you can.
Indeed, this is what I'm doing currently regarding export. We have a fairly big array and storage and Flux export is handy. Even the non-peak export rate makes sense versus solar EV charging at the moment. Plus the Eddi is off and we're heating water with gas (tracker rate) :(
 
I’m one of MyEnergi’s beta testers and on the pending IO beta test group. The native Zappi IO integration is currently in alpha testing, however they’re hoping the beta testing will start soon™.

In the meantime, as you have a Tesla, you can sign up using the Tesla integration and use the Zappi in Fast mode. When selecting Tesla as your vehicle, the Zappi comes up as one of the charger options.

If you’re on the more techie side, you can use HomeAssistant to integrate it further. In my case, I have the Zappi set to Eco+ with a scheduled boost 2330-0700. An automation turns on IO Smart charge in the evening and then turns it off again in the morning. IO target SoC is (currently, will probably up it when weather turns) 50% whilst car SoC limit is 80%. This means the car will charge from IO slots between 2330-0700 to 50%, however can still use solar surplus charging during the day to get up to 80%. I’m not overly fussed if the car doesn’t charge from IO slots prior to 2330, as as long as the car is plugged in you still get the off-peak rate, even if the car is unable to charge. I do it this way as I also have a house battery that isn’t easily controlled so I won‘t discharge this into the car.
Thanks for this. I'm still reasonably familar with stuff like php/mysql so I suspect I could get my head around HA given time. However, we're not big car users (mainly work from home these days) so my requirements are relatively straightforward - looks like it will be the Zappi on Fast (or our dumb charger) and let the car do the work, although this won't be more than a couple of charges per week max. I'll do that overnight along with charging the batteries as we move into winter. If flux is still available come April/May, I'll hop back on to that to max the export. If I set up any more gadgets in the house she ain't going to be happy, so I'll be keeping it as simple as possible :)
 
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We have the same. Switched tariff through the Octopus app on Thursday afternoon. Ran through the steps and have our Model 3 linked in the app. The test charge during setup completed and then it gave a charge schedule for that night, which also completed as expected. The tariff shown in the app still says "Octopus Go" but in all other respects it appears to be functioning on the IO tariff. I plan to give it a couple more days before contacting customer support.
Right, I've got my IO sorted now. I had gone through the switch process and was getting charging schedules which worked but the app still said tariff was Go. I spoke with someone at Octopus support and explained the issue and they said this was very strange and shouldn't happen like that. They did a billing run on my account and it charged at the Go rates. So they had to remove all the IO links and settings and I had to onboard for IO again. I did nothing different from the first time, but a day later I got an email confirming my switch to IO and my rates have changed in the app.
So if anyone applies for IO, make sure you get a confirmation email within a couple of days and your rate changes in the app - otherwise you have not been switched (even if you get charging schedules from octopus)
 
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Right, I've got my IO sorted now. I had gone through the switch process and was getting charging schedules which worked but the app still said tariff was Go. I spoke with someone at Octopus support and explained the issue and they said this was very strange and shouldn't happen like that. They did a billing run on my account and it charged at the Go rates. So they had to remove all the IO links and settings and I had to onboard for IO again. I did nothing different from the first time, but a day later I got an email confirming my switch to IO and my rates have changed in the app.
So if anyone applies for IO, make sure you get a confirmation email within a couple of days and your rate changes in the app - otherwise you have not been switched (even if you get charging schedules from octopus)
I had exactly the same when I switched last week so obviously not as strange as octopus make out :)
 
Why is it that IO always* fails to charge when you’re going on a trip and need the car topped up? Didn’t charge overnight and even now I’ve manually started a charge with it set to be ready for 1100 (the latest it allows) and IO is refusing to give me a charge schedule. “A charging plan will be made shortly after you plug in” my sweet puttootay!

*not always, I’m exaggerating!
 
Why is it that IO always* fails to charge when you’re going on a trip and need the car topped up? Didn’t charge overnight and even now I’ve manually started a charge with it set to be ready for 1100 (the latest it allows) and IO is refusing to give me a charge schedule. “A charging plan will be made shortly after you plug in” my sweet puttootay!

*not always, I’m exaggerating!
Probably worth just disabling IO and doing it manually.
You'll pay Peak rates, though, unfortunately :/
 
Probably worth just disabling IO and doing it manually.
You'll pay Peak rates, though, unfortunately :/
The car is charging away as I need it topped up. It should be off-peak, however as IO is refusing to apply a schedule then I will indeed be charged the peak rate. I may decide to challenge Octopus about it, if I can be bothered. The joys of a beta product!

But yes, in future, if I need the car topped up, I’ll probably disable IO and let the Zappi charge on a schedule. That way I can be fairly confident it’ll get the job done!
 
Ok, I just managed to trigger a schedule by changing the ready by time from 1100 to 1030. I then changed it back to 1100 and I now have a schedule that runs through to 1100. At least I’ll get some off-peak time!

As a side note, anyone using the latest iOS version of the app (3.82.0) able to find the account settings button? I think they’ve ballsed up and have removed the button?
 
If I click on the picture of a face (top left) it goes to “Account & Settings”
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