Evie EV charging networks

[Vostok]

@B3AU gave one example - trying to force an access panel open (maybe if you looked closely you'd see some pry marks).

And to me, if that’s the case, that is very poor design. Trying to force a panel open, without obviously damaging it, should never be sufficient to cause something to fail. Public infrastructure should be robust enough to handle accidental as well as deliberate, but largely superficial damage, so that its core function continues to operate.

The other thing that makes me sceptical is that vandals are not known for their subtlety. People who have irrational hatred of EVs are unlikely to try to gently take a DCFC offline so as to not scratch the paintwork. Nope, they are going to go the fully monty. Vandalism is usually indiscriminate, forceful, and unmissable.

 

[Chuq]

Yeah, the only ones that I would categorise as definite vandalism would be the ones with the smashed screens (and maybe the broken connectors, but that can also happen from accidental dropping at the wrong angle).

 

[TrevRex]

I did say “obviously vandalised” meaning visible damage. I’ve driven a lot around NSW, VIC and some of southern QLD, and Evie Taree would be one of the ones I use the most. The NRMA charger at Walgett is the only one I’ve ever encountered that was physically damaged (screen and card reader smashed).

If a DCFC can be taken offline due to physical interference without any visible damage, then I posit that is poor design. Did the tech give specific examples of the types of physical actions that could take down a DCFC without any obvious damage?

Yes you did say “obviously vandalised” meaning visible damage. But for instance a frozen or dark display while it may not have what you call “obviously vandalised” as in "smashed" if it has been hit hard enough to cause component damage behind the display is it still not vandalism that may cause problems for everyone involved including us users?

I do NOT want to come across here as someone defending Evie, Tritium or even the technician that has to travel around fixing the the chargers. Hell if you want my personal opinion as a design engineer on Tritium's design I think it's too open to attack from vandalism or even from a maintenance standpoint by being too complicated in the cabinet. The KISS principle is always is one of my foundations of engineering I am always trying to adhere to within reason.

 

[cafz]

And to me, if that’s the case, that is very poor design. Trying to force a panel open, without obviously damaging it, should never be sufficient to cause something to fail. Public infrastructure should be robust enough to handle accidental as well as deliberate, but largely superficial damage, so that its core function continues to operate.

It seems pretty likely to be a safety interlock - if the intrusion detection on the cabinet is tripped, it fails safe rather than potentially have the high power components exposed. This does seem a reasonable design to me, but it means that the owners need to have someone on standby to check out the device and reset the alarm if it hasn't been compromised.

 

[RichardV]

Probable location of Arena Evie Charger at Hornsby,

1-3 Dural Street Hornsby.

With mock up location shot,

Council had a request for public comment earlier in the year,

Proposed Electric Vehicle Charging Station

Dural Street Car Park, 1-3 Dural Street, Hornsby

yoursay.hornsby.nsw.gov.au

with the mostly positive response here.

https://www.hornsby.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0003/251247/LTC-08-2023-Dural-Street-Carpark,-Hornsby-Proposed-designated-Electric-Vehicle-EV-parking-spaces-Public-Consultation-Summary.pdf

And a subsequent request for comment from relevant authorities,

https://www.hornsby.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/251248/LTC-08-2023-Dural-Street-Carpark,-Hornsby-Proposed-designated-Electric-Vehicle-EV-parking-spaces.pdf

I don't think this has yet gone to council, hence probable location. Though it looks like a fairly sure thing.

 

[Stromi]

Evie DCFC at Beaufort Victoria is now live.

Evie has installed two 50kW Tritium DCFC stations at Beaufort, between Ballarat and Horsham.
Original location at the rotunda on the highway was changed to much quieter one away from the truck noise,
in carpark behind the shops on the main road. Quick access to shops and the famous Vegemite Museum.

The site has 1x CHAdeMO and 3x CCS/SAE and is a good option rather than detouring into Ballarat.

Discovered from plugshare and DEECA - Destination Charging Across Victoria

 

[moa999]

The site has 1x CHAdeMO and 3x CCS/SAE

And importantly four spots.

 

[Onshore]

Council had a request for public comment earlier in the year,

Proposed Electric Vehicle Charging Station

Dural Street Car Park, 1-3 Dural Street, Hornsby

yoursay.hornsby.nsw.gov.au

Why do councils treat the most minor of EV charger installations as if it's a proposal for a new international airport?

 

[moa999]

Arena install spotted at IKEA Tempe in Sydney, next to their four existing AC chargers.

 

[SPadival]

Question not directly related to Evie, but don't know where else I can ask it - Any idea why ABRP (premium) still does not have real time info on Evie chargers (They have Chargefox & Tesla)? Google Maps seems to have both Evie as well as Chargefox (but not Tesla).

 

[Vostok]

I don’t have the answer to your question @SPadival, but I do have a different question - how on earth do you average 10 likes per post?!!!

 

[leonk]

Question not directly related to Evie, but don't know where else I can ask it - Any idea why ABRP (premium) still does not have real time info on Evie chargers (They have Chargefox & Tesla)? Google Maps seems to have both Evie as well as Chargefox (but not Tesla).

Maybe Rivian will improve it?

Exclusive: Rivian to acquire ABRP (A Better Route Planner)

The deal could close in a week – or it might have been completed as this goes to print. Sources...

electrek.co

 

[SPadival]

I don’t have the answer to your question @SPadival, but I do have a different question - how on earth do you average 10 likes per post?!!!

Generous people over at the investment sub-forum . I post almost exclusively in that sub-forum. I became an MY owner only this January after reserving a M3 on Day 1 (long story!)

 

[moa999]

So Evie's just opened a rather different unit on Sydney's Northern Beaches

Tesla Owners Australia | This Evie Networks charger has just gone live | Facebook

This Evie Networks charger has just gone live. It’s not showing up on PlugShare or the evie app but it’s live and technically the fastest DC charger in Sydney’s northern beaches. 4 bays of CCS2 👍🏻

www.facebook.com

Interesting parts
- Arena funded stickers
- 4 parking spots, 2 stalls (previous have been 2/2)
- PKM150 machines (previous RTM75)
- 2x dual CCS2 (previous 2x CCS2/CHAdeMO - lack of CHAdeMO also seen with recent Engie rollouts)

 

[RichardV]

So Evie's just opened a rather different unit on Sydney's Northern Beaches

Tesla Owners Australia | This Evie Networks charger has just gone live | Facebook

This Evie Networks charger has just gone live. It’s not showing up on PlugShare or the evie app but it’s live and technically the fastest DC charger in Sydney’s northern beaches. 4 bays of CCS2 👍🏻

www.facebook.com

Interesting parts
- Arena funded stickers
- 4 parking spots, 2 stalls (previous have been 2/2)
- PKM150 machines (previous RTM75)
- 2x dual CCS2 (previous 2x CCS2/CHAdeMO - lack of CHAdeMO also seen with recent Engie rollouts)

I guess there were some lessons learnt after all the lessons learnt that they had to report as part of ARENA funding requirements.

 

[moa999]

Combined with the recent Engie openings suggests that Arena may have dropped their CHAdeMO requirements.

 

[moa999]

One thing I hadn't noticed last night - Evie is charging like it's an ultrafast - so $0.60/kWh

(Still uses the same MSxxx code, all other NSW sites are HSxxx)

 

[cafz]

One thing I hadn't noticed last night - Evie is charging like it's an ultrafast - so $0.60/kWh

Maybe 100kW is their break point.

 

[cafz]

The other thing that makes me sceptical is that vandals are not known for their subtlety. People who have irrational hatred of EVs are unlikely to try to gently take a DCFC offline so as to not scratch the paintwork. Nope, they are going to go the fully monty. Vandalism is usually indiscriminate, forceful, and unmissable.

NRMA currently has two chargers offline due to unsubtle vandalism: Albury and Walgett.

 

[Chuq]

One thing I hadn't noticed last night - Evie is charging like it's an ultrafast - so $0.60/kWh

(Still uses the same MSxxx code, all other NSW sites are HSxxx)

That makes sense, kinda. Across the entire charge session, even on a 350 kW site most EVs will be charging closer to 112 kW than to 350 kW.