Tesla opening up the Supercharger network in Australia to other brand EVs.

[Skurfer]

There goes doing a road trip at peak times such as school holidays and long weekends.

It had already become a pain travelling up the Hume and through other areas on longer trips that I was avoiding it anyways after the last couple of times having long enough waits for it to be not worth it. Now it will be a hell of a lot worse. Pretty much the last reason to consider a Tesla over anything else was the charging network exclusivity.

 

[moa999]

had already become a pain travelling up the Hume

None of the sites on the Hume are on the list.

 

[Chuq]

There goes doing a road trip at peak times such as school holidays and long weekends.

It had already become a pain travelling up the Hume and through other areas on longer trips that I was avoiding it anyways after the last couple of times having long enough waits for it to be not worth it. Now it will be a hell of a lot worse. Pretty much the last reason to consider a Tesla over anything else was the charging network exclusivity.

Except none of the sites along the Hume are open.

Not to mention, they've got funding to significantly increase the locations along the Hume, specifically because they have the capability to open these new stations to all EVs.

 

[cafz]

None of the sites on the Hume are on the list.

And only one on the Pacific (Knockrow).

 

[gm12]

Yeah, in NSW it's the inland ones, which I assume don't get much use. Make sense.

 

[Lachlan Smith]

There goes doing a road trip at peak times such as school holidays and long weekends.

Not much will change, Tesla has the most EVs in Australia. I would like to see more third party chargers anyway.

 

[paulp]

Not much will change, Tesla has the most EVs in Australia. I would like to see more third party chargers anyway.

With cheqper ev’s coming to market I’d suggest tesla’s ratio is soon to change unless they deliver model 2

 

[Vostok]

With cheqper ev’s coming to market I’d suggest tesla’s ratio is soon to change unless they deliver model 2

FYI, as at 31 July, Tesla’s fleet market share of battery EVs in NSW was 60.3% (23,565 out of 39,062). That’s pretty consistent with where Tesla’s market share has been since 2017.

 

[paulp]

FYI, as at 31 July, Tesla’s fleet market share of battery EVs in NSW was 60.3% (23,565 out of 39,062). That’s pretty consistent with where Tesla’s market share has been since 2017.

Yep I would not have expected much difference to now as no serious substantial competition happened until earlier this year, with volume now starting to become available. Its an unproven hunch that cheaper ev’s will be more popular and sell more units than mid priced ev’s, just as 3 is vastly more popular than the S. We’ll know in about a year.

 

[Quickst]

pain travelling up the Hume

EV charging options are increasing along the Hume.

I suspect congestion will be due in part to people charging to 100%

 

[moa999]

just as 3 is vastly more popular than the S. We’ll know in about a year.

Think it's more the number of new models at the lower price point.
For the last 6+ months it's been the BYD Atto.

Going forward it's the Atto, Dolphin, MG4, Ora etc.
As well as the Seal at the price point.

 

[Quickst]

I don't think we should think that Tesla or for that matter any EV brand is going to be the predominant brand moving forward.

Ubiquitous charging should be the norm.

 

[Lachlan Smith]

I suspect congestion will be due in part to people charging to 100%

With the increased number of places to charge, there's no need to charge to 100% even in an EV with a lower range.

 

[Quickst]

there's no need to charge to 100%

Yes, but I suspect people still will charge to 100%.

 

[Vostok]

Yes, but I suspect people still will charge to 100%.

Not if per minute charges are imposed when charging above 90%. Also as @Lachlan Smith says, when the density of DCFCs is sufficiently high and EV drivers get less anxious about charging, people will stop charging to 100% because they’ll learn how much time it is costing them.

 

[Chuq]

Side note - looks like our NZ colleagues may be getting the same soon - going by the red Tesla signs appearing at a site under construction: Supercharger - Glenfield

 

[Skurfer]

Yes, but I suspect people still will charge to 100%.

Correct. I do a hell of a lot of regional travel and I understand it having talked to many. With the terrible range the standard range version teslas offer at 110kmh and higher, you are having to stop much more often, so people are tending to make the most of a stop , charging for longer to 100% so they can get some sort of distance up the road before the next charge rather than charging quickly to 70% but only making it another 1.5 hours to another charger as they wouldn't make the next one after that. Horrible road tripping experience. Added to that the standard range versions charge slower at low SOC makes it even worse.

My comment about the Hume wasn't that they are opening those up, rather it is a bad experience already in peak times, let alone opening up those in the future as well. It's bad enough that they are opening up the existing ones as far as the reasons I buy a Telsa. My current on order Y LR will probably be the last Telsa I get for a while as I only got that one due to the charging network. Would love to have tried another brand for the next 12 months I turn over the cars but stuff dealing with the 3rd party network more than you need to already, especially in peak times. If the charging network is open then may as well lash out for something better.

 

[B3AU]

Side note - looks like our NZ colleagues may be getting the same soon - going by the red Tesla signs appearing at a site under construction: Supercharger - Glenfield

Went to check out Campbelltown Catholic Club this afternoon and they've swapped out the sign already. I assume most other sites are the same already (not going to justify a road trip to Blaxland or Figtree to check.... ;-) )

 

[RichardV]

Went to check out Campbelltown Catholic Club this afternoon and they've swapped out the sign already. I assume most other sites are the same already (not going to justify a road trip to Blaxland or Figtree to check.... ;-) )View attachment 970400

They are just teasing us with Wagga,

Posts for signs are there but no sign indicating that it will be open for non-tesla from the start. I suspect this one will be though.

 

[cafz]

I guess time will tell, but I don't think they will necessarily ever open up the busiest sites. They aren't all open in Europe, where they first started opening them up.