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In the future, hopefully improved automated driving systems will be able to avoid this sort of collision entirely.

In the meantime, I continue to be surprised that more attention is not being paid to a simple, known safety measure that in this case may well have resulted in saving Mr. Brown's life-- side impact protection on the tractor-trailer he collided with.

I did a little digging and not only is side impact protection a mandatory safety requirement in the EU, but two years ago the NTSB recommended that the NHTSA adopt mandatory side impact protection requirements for new tractor-trailers. Their findings include a study that found that 89 percent of serious and fatal injuries resulting from side impacts with trailers could have been mitigated through the use of side impact protection.

http://www.ntsb.gov/safety/safety-recs/recletters/h-14-001-007.pdf (relevant bits start at page 7).

Here are a couple of excerpts from the NTSB's letter to the NHTSA:

Side underride. One reason why collisions with the sides of tractor-trailers are hazardous is that side underride may occur during these collisions.23 Both belted and unbelted occupants are vulnerable to injuries as a result of side underride. Side underride occurs when passenger vehicle bumpers are not at the same height and do not engage the substantial side structure of tractor-trailers. Side underride collisions are an important safety problem because they defeat crumple zones and prevent air bag deployment, both vital safety advances in improving protection of passenger vehicle occupants during crashes.24,25,26 Airbags will not deploy in some underride collisions when the sensors to trigger them are not contacted by vehicle structures.27 Crumple zones do not work as intended in underride collisions when relevant passenger vehicle structures fail to engage tractor-trailer structures. Furthermore, the occupant’s safety cage can be compromised when underride allows the passenger vehicle to sustain impacts at the level of the windshield and other areas above the hood. This effect can result in deaths and severe injuries due to intrusion of vehicle components. The adverse effects of underride collisions in defeating safety advances have been demonstrated in a study of belted occupants injured in passenger vehicles with good frontal crash test ratings.28 Head injuries were the most common type of serious injury in underride collisions, and underride collisions had higher rates of fatal and severe non-fatal injuries than other crash configurations. Intrusion into the passenger compartment was the most common contributing factor to injury in underride collisions.

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In 2012, Brumbelow estimated that 530 passenger vehicle occupants died each year during 2006–2008 in two-vehicle collisions between passenger vehicles and the sides of large trucks.32 Brumbelow also did an independent analysis using LTCCS data and concluded that the most severe injuries sustained by passenger vehicle occupants were usually due to the truck side impacts rather than other events that may have occurred during the crashes (many crashes included multiple events that could result in injury). This was the case for 69 percent of 206 crashes in which a passenger vehicle collided with the side of a large truck. About a third of collisions with the sides of large trucks involved truck-tractors and about half involved semi-trailers.

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Brumbelow’s evaluation of the potential benefits of side underride guards strongly suggested that they would reduce injury severity. Of passenger vehicle occupants with serious to fatal injuries attributed to side impacts with semi-trailers35, 89 percent were considered injuries that could have been mitigated by side underride guards. For passenger vehicle occupants with serious to fatal injuries attributed to side impacts with truck-tractor cabs, side underride guards were considered potentially beneficial for 83 percent.3
 
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74mph really isn't that fast....when you are all alone on that kind of road.

Now, here in Chicago... Everyone does at least 75mph....everywhere.

74mph is really fast when you run into something going 0mph.

California too does between 70 and 85 mph depending upon the highway, but that in no way relinquishes the driver from their responsibility of driving their 4900 pound car careening down the road at those speeds. To ignore, is to invite fatailities, which at those speeds are more likely even in a Tesla.
 
California too does between 70 and 85 mph depending upon the highway, but that in no way relinquishes the driver from their responsibility of driving their 4900 pound car careening down the road at those speeds. To ignore, is to invite fatailities, which at those speeds are more likely even in a Tesla.
I absolutely agree. The driver of the car is ALWAYS the responsible party - No matter what the technology is.
 
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New accident with autopilot-equipped car: http://www.dt.no/ulykke/trafikk/nyhet/flere-biler-og-mc-involvert-i-trafikkulykke/s/5-57-409504

(Camera by the rear mirror means it's new-ish, with autopilot hardware.)

It was a chain collision involving three cars and one motorcycle. Looks like the Model S was the last vehicle in the chain, and failed to stop. The motorcyclist is in the hospital while the other drivers were unharmed. This is a divided motorway just after a 62.5 mph (100 km/h) zone turns into a 56.25 mph (90 km/h) zone.

Whether or not the Tesla owner had paid for autopilot activation, it should be running in the background. And whether or not the driver had enganged autopilot, the autobraking should activate.

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<snip> (Note, the radar gives only a Doppler unidimensional return <snip. )
People keep saying stuff like this and it is explicitly false.

Automobile speed/collision avoidance radars provide 3D plus velocity information about multiple targets in front of the car. The radar beams are electronically swept in both horizontal and vertical directions and the distance and velocity of everything the beams see is then processed into discrete targets with 3D positions and velocity and some size information.

https://www.cst.com/~/media/CST/Lan...ting-FMCW-Automotive-Radar-Devices.ashx?la=en
 
From the manual:

When Automatic Emergency Braking has
reduced the driving speed by 25 mph
(40 km/h), the brakes are released. For
example, if Automatic Emergency Braking
applies braking when driving at 56 mph
(90 km/h), it releases the brakes when the
speed has been reduced to 31 mph

Whether this makes sense, on the other hand, is a very valid question IMHO. I suppose the idea is they don't want false alerts to have cars come to a sudden full stop in the middle of a highway. The system just gives the driver a head start on stopping if he wasn't paying attention.

Looking at the picture of the Tesla's damage, it couldn't have been going very fast when it hit.
 
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Fascinating, but where did you get that image?

It's not from the original story's images because:

a) The original image has no where near the resolution to make that image.
b) The lighting is wrong
c) The angle is wrong
d) The car's color is wrong
It's not the same car. It was just to show you what you should be looking for in the original image. See:

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Fascinating how a significant improvement in automotive safety is intensely scrutinized. Autopilot- hone in onto the Tesla and forget the rest of the details.
I agree the attention paid to the autopilot is irrational. Just thought I'd post the recent incident because if I don't, it might just pop up again in a few weeks as part of a big FUD article or something.
 
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I don't. If it did activate, it didn't bring the Model S to a complete halt before making impact, though.
I think you have been on TMC long enough, and have read enough about the Model S, to know that Tesla states that AEB will not bring the car to a "complete halt" before impact. It is designed to reduce the speed of the cat at impact.
 
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side impact protection a mandatory safety requirement in the EU

Its been mandatory in UK for 30 years. Come on USA ... pull your finger out.

If you go under a trailer it will take the roof off the car, and decapitate all the people in it who didn't duck. It's not a survivable accident, even at moderate speed.