MikeBur
ManualPilot
Thanks Marc, though you're traveling below 45 and it's a 25 limit. Any way to try >45 in a >45 limit? I know that's not exactly possible in town... ;-)
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Thanks Marc, though you're traveling below 45 and it's a 25 limit. Any way to try >45 in a >45 limit? I know that's not exactly possible in town... ;-)
Cyclone
Cyclonic Member ((.oO))
Your carrot would be launch mode.
Sure, but only if the version doesn't include restrictions to autopilot. If the version doesn't actually have the restriction listed in the release notes, then I've no issue updating.
Cyclone
Cyclonic Member ((.oO))
I was at Charlotte this morning for a friend's delivery and he got 2.9.12 on an AP car. I don't know what version was on the other two cars. We will have to see if there are widespread restrictions applied or just overzealous release notes.
Andyw2100
Well-Known Member
You may have a tough decision to make, if things continue the way some seem to be reporting things now. There are several reports, in another thread (see below) of the stated restrictions (the ones included in the release notes) not actually seeming to have been implemented. In other words, the release notes may include the restrictions, but anecdotal evidence may be that there actually aren't any.
I did manage to get up to 55mph on the same road, but the speed limit is (apparently) 25mph though no signs are posted. I'm assuming it's implied given the type and location of the road.
Someone with 2.9.40 will need to test this on undivided roads with higher speed limits. Until I get back up to the mountains, which won't happen for another week or so, I can't think of other roads to test this on.
MikeBur
ManualPilot
I just did yet another long drive (about 200 miles today) with mostly autopilot (v7.0 2.7.77) with only about 20% being divided highway/interstate driving and probably 90% with autopilot enabled. It worked well where I expected it to work well. Lots of two or four lane undivided roads with speed limits from 45 to 65 MPH mostly on this trip where the normal traffic speed is pretty much never less than 50 MPH. My average speed was easily 60+ MPH.
Autopilot did its job where I expected it to, and I helped it through some tighter curves and some areas where there were intersections and other places where it would be unsure how to proceed safely, which is completely expected. IMO it worked well in all cases where I figured it would work well.
A 45 MPH restriction on "surface streets" or "undivided highways" or whatever would have forced me to not use the feature at all today aside from the short portion of actual interstate highway driving. I hate to break this to you, Tesla, but I actually use the feature and like it as it is because it's awesome, and it works very well... especially once its limitations are pretty much fully understood. Adding restrictions on how it can be used on certain roads based on whatever criteria is just going to cause headaches and make people not actually use autopilot at all. Maybe that's what they're going for... if no one uses it, can't possibly be any incidents.
Possibly Tesla would give us some changeable IC formats like the new 2017 E class will do soon, this may help stop all the complaints of not having the IC the way people want it.
Here is a video of how MB will do this.
Mercedes-Benz TV: Interior Design of the future E-Class. - YouTube
Here is a video of how MB will do this.
Mercedes-Benz TV: Interior Design of the future E-Class. - YouTube
Cyclone
Cyclonic Member ((.oO))
Way back in this thread, we had a discussion on v7 efficiency and some thought that certain things were excluded from the calculation. Well, in 2.9.12, the BMS definitely affects the numbers. Last night I forgot to plug in. As I started my drive this morning, I had 40 miles since last charge at 312 Wh/mi. My "since" trip meter was at 1,087 for 0.1 miles (my driveway). I do NOT have preconditioning turned on. During the night, the car must have burned some energy to get lumped into the next energy interval.
HankLloydRight
No Roads
I've had that happen. This was from about a year ago.
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Ok, there is some back-story to that.
I had mistakenly range charged to 100% the night before, so I went out and cranked up everything -- lights, heater to max, seat heaters and ran those full blast to bleed down the energy from 100%.
That image was from the next morning when I started my trip.
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Ok, there is some back-story to that.
I had mistakenly range charged to 100% the night before, so I went out and cranked up everything -- lights, heater to max, seat heaters and ran those full blast to bleed down the energy from 100%.
That image was from the next morning when I started my trip.
Cyclone
Cyclonic Member ((.oO))
Well I saw it all the time in 6.2. But I was charging at 120v then, so the car would always be plugged in basically. But last night I had 200 miles, forgot to plug in, and had nothing running until I sat in the car and took off. So some BMS must be counted for that power use level.
i have experienced this (not @ Hank's level!) since delivery, 2012. I do not believe it is vampire drain factoring in. It is initial high usage by a cold battery, or bad ability to read precise metrics on cold battery, or both. Always worse in cold weather. My first .1 mile always 450 to 1500 wh/mi.
Cyclone
Cyclonic Member ((.oO))
dirkhh
Middle-aged Member
I get this effect much more pronounced in the winter. I'll lose easily 10 miles in 24h above what I have driven. On 6.2
GlmnAlyAirCar
Active Member
My thoughts exactly. I suspect Elon is only implementing this to calm the media by making it appear as if something is getting done to limit autosteer. This is one of Tesla's major achievements and providing any real limitations on functionality would seriously hurt AP's acceptance. This may only be a temporary limitation; maybe it will never be released.
dirkhh
Middle-aged Member
Warning: pointless whine...
So now I got the forth notification of a new software available on my car. And each time starts the clock until it stops nagging you. I'm not 100% certain, but I think it's four weeks of clicking the little 'x' before it gives up. But then whenever it downloads a new build, it starts again :-(
Yeah, I know, not a problem anyone cares about, but I needed to share, anyway
So now I got the forth notification of a new software available on my car. And each time starts the clock until it stops nagging you. I'm not 100% certain, but I think it's four weeks of clicking the little 'x' before it gives up. But then whenever it downloads a new build, it starts again :-(
Yeah, I know, not a problem anyone cares about, but I needed to share, anyway
So now I got the forth notification of a new software available on my car. And each time starts the clock until it stops nagging you. I'm not 100% certain, but I think it's four weeks of clicking the little 'x' before it gives up. But then whenever it downloads a new build, it starts again :-(
Yeah, I know, not a problem anyone cares about, but I needed to share, anyway
Actually good to know. I wasn't aware that the nagging would ever actually stop.
dirkhh
Middle-aged Member
Back during the time when people didn't want 5.8(??) because of the removal of the air suspension auto lowering I seem to remember several reporting that they no longer got nags. And at least one wasn't able to update after this was all resolved and had to go to a SC to get the latest firmware installed.
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