I assume that AP would be much less of a hassle if you left those "nags" on the horse farm when you travel :biggrin:
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I assume that AP would be much less of a hassle if you left those "nags" on the horse farm when you travel :biggrin:
dirkhh
Middle-aged Member
sillydriver
Member
We have seven, and if my wife whose horses they are ever heard me calling them nags I would be in big trouble.
dirkhh
Middle-aged Member
You are looking at this the wrong way. He gets sushi AND he gets to drive his Tesla for 45 minutes or an hour. Win-win.
It's not about the sushi. It's about the excuse to drive. I've been driving out of state to see family over the weekend just for the drive. And to spend time with the family too of course.
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You put the win-win part better than I did.
sillydriver
Member
green1
Active Member
So I received an update notification today. I pressed the X in the upper right, and unless the reviews in here improve a fair amount, I will continue to do so.
What I'm seeing said so far:
-Summon is really neat, but serves no practical purpose and isn't available to me anyway.
-UI is unchanged except for removing one frequently used toggle in the media player.
-AP seems slightly smother, but is reported to nag more (somewhere between "slightly more" and every 3-5 minutes)
-AP restrictions have false positives, and rely on speed limits that the car can't possibly know.
So overall, very very minor improvements at the cost of fairly major drawbacks.
No update here, hopefully the car stops nagging me to downgrade after a while.
What I'm seeing said so far:
-Summon is really neat, but serves no practical purpose and isn't available to me anyway.
-UI is unchanged except for removing one frequently used toggle in the media player.
-AP seems slightly smother, but is reported to nag more (somewhere between "slightly more" and every 3-5 minutes)
-AP restrictions have false positives, and rely on speed limits that the car can't possibly know.
So overall, very very minor improvements at the cost of fairly major drawbacks.
No update here, hopefully the car stops nagging me to downgrade after a while.
HankLloydRight
No Roads
I once paid for a $50 cab ride to go visit In-And-Out for the first time when I was visiting a datacenter in Freemont (years before Tesla Motors).
There's nothing like In-and-Out on the east coast.
I think there is a nag. Just spend 30 minutes testing this.
Interstate road, 12-lanes divided (6 each direction), every 3 minutes for 12 minutes (i.e. 4 times) then I got off. Exactly at the 3minute mark.
Local road, 6 lanes (3 each direction, grass divider, though the car thought it was an undivided highway and restricted AP), every 1minute for 4 minutes (i.e. 4 times).
Then I held the wheel for about 5minutes, and still on the local road it let me drive for 2 minutes, then nagged, and then back down to 1 minute. I think it might be giving me leeway if it sees me holding the wheel.
Up until this evening I was in the "nah, there's no nag" category, but I think there is, as it's repetitive (in whole minute intervals), and I also think the nag is different on different types of roads.
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I'll grab some photos later if no one did yet. It's pretty good (haven't seen bikes yet, it's cold out now) with cars and trucks. It can now show up to 2 (or at least's that's what I've seen) cars per lane, so I've had 5 cars on my screen at the same time.
The issue is that only detects the cars in neighboring lanes that are about 1 cars length ahead of you (I guess the camera isn't wide enough), so it never shows cars parallel to your car.
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I have no problem stopping if I need it, but it's so close to home (Fairfax) that I don't see a point of ever going.
FTR, I've never actually been to Bethesda supercharger. Might need to visit it before they move it.
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I've seen trucks, no motorcycles yet (it's cold). Trucks are hit or miss, I've had trucks convert into cars, lol.
Interstate road, 12-lanes divided (6 each direction), every 3 minutes for 12 minutes (i.e. 4 times) then I got off. Exactly at the 3minute mark.
Local road, 6 lanes (3 each direction, grass divider, though the car thought it was an undivided highway and restricted AP), every 1minute for 4 minutes (i.e. 4 times).
Then I held the wheel for about 5minutes, and still on the local road it let me drive for 2 minutes, then nagged, and then back down to 1 minute. I think it might be giving me leeway if it sees me holding the wheel.
Up until this evening I was in the "nah, there's no nag" category, but I think there is, as it's repetitive (in whole minute intervals), and I also think the nag is different on different types of roads.
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I'll grab some photos later if no one did yet. It's pretty good (haven't seen bikes yet, it's cold out now) with cars and trucks. It can now show up to 2 (or at least's that's what I've seen) cars per lane, so I've had 5 cars on my screen at the same time.
The issue is that only detects the cars in neighboring lanes that are about 1 cars length ahead of you (I guess the camera isn't wide enough), so it never shows cars parallel to your car.
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You couldn't stop at Bethesda for less than 5 minutes if your life counted on it
I have no problem stopping if I need it, but it's so close to home (Fairfax) that I don't see a point of ever going.
FTR, I've never actually been to Bethesda supercharger. Might need to visit it before they move it.
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I've seen trucks, no motorcycles yet (it's cold). Trucks are hit or miss, I've had trucks convert into cars, lol.
pdxgibby
Software Engineer
It's not just 40 miles for sushi, it's take-out sushi! I realize that you're in a Model S, and you could probably do 40 miles in 25 minutes -- but still. I like my sushi fresher than that.
As an aside, it always cracks me up when I visit my family in Indiana and the grocery story has a sign up that reads, "Fresh Seafood!" Really? We're in Indiana, people? How fresh can it be?
sillydriver
Member
Not to be grotesque about this but sushi bars buy (or should buy) certain varieties of fish frozen because freezing kills certain parasites (worms) that would otherwise be dangerous eaten raw.
Many years ago I used to live on the near north side of Chicago. The seafood there was surprisingly good, thanks to the rapid air freight through O'Hare. For some reason the quality in markets isn't as good hear 45 miles west of DC. Before moving here six years ago I used to live in the Boston north shore. Seafood heaven!
So as a Classic S85, some notes about stuff NOT requiring the AP hardware:
-The auto-adjusting display brightness is very responsive and works well. Good improvement
-The HVAC is better now... on auto, it behaves much more like it did pre-7.0. A setting of 72-74 will get the blower up to 5 now... before it would often stay on 1-2
-Garage-door auto-opening/closing is spiffy. I like it.
-With the ability to now not unlock doors with park, I think they need to make a change to not tie interior trunk/frunk controls from the door locks. If I hit park now, I can't open my frunk/trunk from the center console. I have to hit park a second time to unlock the doors, and then I can release the frunk. I understand not allowing the OUTSIDE trunk handle to allow it to open if the doors are locked, but there's no reason I shouldn't be able to open either from INSIDE...
-Time and clock on dash is nice. No temp on center console is a step back... it should be there as well (and while at it, let's add date to dash)
-Removal of quick-select on radio sucks... especially if you have many favorites to scroll through instead.
-It may be coincidence, but after enabling the garage auto-open controls, when I pulled in to my garage, my headlights didn't come on like they normally do. I thought perhaps that was because the car realized I was in a garage, and hence not needed. Then when I pulled my door handle to get out, they promptly switched on... since then it's been dark when I've gotten home so I haven't been able to test again.
-The auto-adjusting display brightness is very responsive and works well. Good improvement
-The HVAC is better now... on auto, it behaves much more like it did pre-7.0. A setting of 72-74 will get the blower up to 5 now... before it would often stay on 1-2
-Garage-door auto-opening/closing is spiffy. I like it.
-With the ability to now not unlock doors with park, I think they need to make a change to not tie interior trunk/frunk controls from the door locks. If I hit park now, I can't open my frunk/trunk from the center console. I have to hit park a second time to unlock the doors, and then I can release the frunk. I understand not allowing the OUTSIDE trunk handle to allow it to open if the doors are locked, but there's no reason I shouldn't be able to open either from INSIDE...
-Time and clock on dash is nice. No temp on center console is a step back... it should be there as well (and while at it, let's add date to dash)
-Removal of quick-select on radio sucks... especially if you have many favorites to scroll through instead.
-It may be coincidence, but after enabling the garage auto-open controls, when I pulled in to my garage, my headlights didn't come on like they normally do. I thought perhaps that was because the car realized I was in a garage, and hence not needed. Then when I pulled my door handle to get out, they promptly switched on... since then it's been dark when I've gotten home so I haven't been able to test again.
pdxgibby
Software Engineer
I lived in Boston for a while too. Really good seafood, but nothing beats the 12 years in lived in Hawaii. But the best sushi ever was in Taiwan. Seriously amazing!
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Got notified that my 85D was ready to install the 7.1 update this morning. Drove to work and just before 8AM had the install proceed. About 2 hours later I got a notification from the app that the upgrade had failed. Went to lunch at noon and the car had a notice about a failed upgrade. That made me think that the changes had been rolled back, but going into the menus I see options for auto part in perpendicular spaces and auto-summon. Has anybody else gotten a partial upgrade? I'm afraid to try the new features until I get notified that the upgrade was successful. What are your thoughts?
Got notified that my 85D was ready to install the 7.1 update this morning. Drove to work and just before 8AM had the install proceed. About 2 hours later I got a notification from the app that the upgrade had failed. Went to lunch at noon and the car had a notice about a failed upgrade. That made me think that the changes had been rolled back, but going into the menus I see options for auto part in perpendicular spaces and auto-summon. Has anybody else gotten a partial upgrade? I'm afraid to try the new features until I get notified that the upgrade was successful. What are your thoughts?
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