You should have got it by now. In the past I have called my own Service Center and asked them if they could have Fremont push it to me or if I could drop by and they made arrangements both times.
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HankLloydRight
No Roads
Just to followup -- each row in the firmware tracker is independent. Each row tracks the history of when cars were updated with that firmware version. There may or may not be overlap of the same cars on each row (although that is likely). When a specific car is upgraded, its previous history is not changed (i.e. their tracking count doesn't move up).
So it's not easy to track what you are implying, since different cars are reported on each line. Now I could certainly add some reports that say "Of the cars that did receive build X have been upgraded to build Y", but since not all cars get all builds, many cars will skip build X and go right to build Y. So even that kind of report would not be accurate. Also, as new people log on to the tracker and enter their current build info, that inflates the most recent build counts, without any prior history.
What is possible is for all the builds older than the most current build is to say "## users are still on this older build" which I had added for a while, but it wasn't being calculated correctly, so I removed it.
I would love to be able to see the count for people currently listed on each build by model.
artsci
Sponsor
Having read most of the posts regarding the huge number of problems with 8.0 (and the problems cover just about everything not just the media player issues with USB devices) I don't think it would be unfair to suggest that the Tesla staff who worked on it are close to incompetent. For a tech company like Tesla the 8.0 failings are inexcusable.
Bet TSLA
Active Member
Please put it back! I thought it was very useful for understanding the dynamics of the update process from a high level. It would be even better for the numbers to be accurate, but even approximate is good.
Much thanks for your efforts at collecting and presenting the data!
HankLloydRight
No Roads
mrElbe
Active Member
At the least they should hire a competent usability expert. A lot of us folks are older and when you are driving, reasonable contrast, proper button placement, and a minimum of button pushing is of high priority. Concentrate on better usability and do not change things just for cuteness; eg. Phone icon.
MarcG
Active Member
The new "feature" in 8.0 is that it doesn't let you increase the max speed beyond 5mph over the current speed limit. Also, it lowers it for you when a lower speed limit zone is entered, AND it keeps it down to that lower speed when you exit the slow zone - even though you're back to the higher speed limit.
In my test example, 7.1 would have NOT dropped my max set speed from 55 to 45, but would have correctly reduced the travel speed to 45mph. Then, upon exiting the reduces speed zone, the car would have accelerated back up to 55mph.
THAT's the behavior I'm now missing in 8.0 and wished they hadn't mucked with.
jgs
Active Member
To be clear, this is only the case when you have Autosteer engaged on a non-interstate(ish) road. If you're just using TACC, they didn't mess with it. Just like in 7.1.
mrElbe
Active Member
jgs
Active Member
Yep, just wanted it out there for people tuning in late. Which happens pretty frequently with these mega-threads.
vdiv
Chief Grump
Wow, KmanAuto really lays it thick in his assessment from a couple of weeks ago. His anxiety and even anger is shared by many of us and is rather revealing, his attempt to stay positive about the release unfortunately has little to stand on:
I really think that 2.36.x and 2.38.x were unfinished (call them beta if you wish) builds and that many of who did not sign up to be Tesla's testers had the "pleasure" of doing just that. 2.40.x is slightly better, but still has major UI flaws, and who knows what else is going on in the backend separate from the client in the car that is wreaking havoc with navigation.
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Watching now, but the fact he has a giant stack of papers lets me know this is going to be bad, very bad. Does this guy show up on Tesla's radar because I'm kinda hoping he does. What is his username on here?
Bruin1996
Member
Thanks! I am going to try to do this with my SC to see if they can push the update to me. I am really interested in having the radar detect 2 cars ahead in Autopilot.. I feel that will help increase safety which is the most important thing for me.
Finally got a chance to use AP 8.0. Have to say, much better than 7.1. Drove our original route (long highway with multiple turns and one long 90 degree turn).
Before, with the turns, AP 7.1 would barrow into the turns and make pretty sharp corrections, occasionally popping out of the lane. Also because the road sucks and has grids and over-painted lane markings all over the place, AP 7.1 would drift. With the sun, the light lane markings and light road, there were stretches where AP 7.1 would lose the markings. If there wasn't a car to follow, it would start to drift or just disable itself. These issues did improve over time, but to some degree always persisted. We just learned to be vigilant with it's behavior.
Today with 8.0 the turns were silky smooth. My wife never once did her usual panic jumps from the Tesla inching toward the car to the right in AP 7.1 during a turn. It steered itself confidently along the crappy lane markings and grids (still there, no change). Finally there was a stretch where AP 8.0 lost the lane markings and had no car in front to guide itself. I watched as it approximated a lane on the dash and followed it. Even when the road turned (and it still didn't find the lane markings), the car still followed the turn without freaking out and eventually picked up the lane markings later.
Stop and go traffic it was very smooth. Only once slowing slightly more abruptly because a car changed into my lane. Lane changes with AP 8.0 were nominal, very happy about that. No overshoot or undershoot.
Very nice.
I won't go into the radio issues as everyone has pretty much covered it. Same here.
Didn't get a chance to go to the sales/service center. Wife may try tomorrow (to see if geo-fencing can work....hope, hope...we're still on 2.38.106). I told her not to get her hopes up based on what you all have said here.
Before, with the turns, AP 7.1 would barrow into the turns and make pretty sharp corrections, occasionally popping out of the lane. Also because the road sucks and has grids and over-painted lane markings all over the place, AP 7.1 would drift. With the sun, the light lane markings and light road, there were stretches where AP 7.1 would lose the markings. If there wasn't a car to follow, it would start to drift or just disable itself. These issues did improve over time, but to some degree always persisted. We just learned to be vigilant with it's behavior.
Today with 8.0 the turns were silky smooth. My wife never once did her usual panic jumps from the Tesla inching toward the car to the right in AP 7.1 during a turn. It steered itself confidently along the crappy lane markings and grids (still there, no change). Finally there was a stretch where AP 8.0 lost the lane markings and had no car in front to guide itself. I watched as it approximated a lane on the dash and followed it. Even when the road turned (and it still didn't find the lane markings), the car still followed the turn without freaking out and eventually picked up the lane markings later.
Stop and go traffic it was very smooth. Only once slowing slightly more abruptly because a car changed into my lane. Lane changes with AP 8.0 were nominal, very happy about that. No overshoot or undershoot.
Very nice.
I won't go into the radio issues as everyone has pretty much covered it. Same here.
Didn't get a chance to go to the sales/service center. Wife may try tomorrow (to see if geo-fencing can work....hope, hope...we're still on 2.38.106). I told her not to get her hopes up based on what you all have said here.
You don't have to upgrade just because it is offered. I am still sticking with 7.1 based on all the comments I have read here. I generally love new gadgets and functionality, but it seems like in this case 8.0 brings mostly disadvantages so I just don't see the point of upgrading. The only advantage I have seen up till now is that TACC seems to be smoother in stop and go traffic due to the radar, but I have never really experienced a problem with that so it doesnt seem sufficient reason to upgrade.
I just keep cancelling the upgrade screen every time it comes up on my screen.