And I was responding to your post that you’ve only received updates related to noises and games. So yeah.
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andrewFW
Member
If you're not posting an FSD video or posting about an FSD video, consider posting in a different thread, please. There are many overlapping threads on FSD related topics, this thread is great specifically because it allows people to just see results and not endless bickering or baseless speculation.
Keep the thread focused, please!
This comparison was really neat to see! I know it'd be very difficult to keep them synced up, but it'd be really neat to see them side by side.
Keep the thread focused, please!
This comparison was really neat to see! I know it'd be very difficult to keep them synced up, but it'd be really neat to see them side by side.
Potentially interesting situation from TesLatino with a pedestrian walking at a crosswalk without right of way:
FSD beta didn't slow down at all, and that was the correct behavior expected by the pedestrian who is trying to walk right behind the Tesla in between moving vehicles. Unclear if Autopilot actively understood that or just believed it had right of way, e.g., stopping for crosswalk is ignored at a green light.
FSD beta didn't slow down at all, and that was the correct behavior expected by the pedestrian who is trying to walk right behind the Tesla in between moving vehicles. Unclear if Autopilot actively understood that or just believed it had right of way, e.g., stopping for crosswalk is ignored at a green light.
powertoold
Active Member
We've seen this before, and I mentioned that it is the result of the car's human-like predictions:
FSD has to assume pedestrians will yield correctly or it would never get anywhere. If the pedestrian becomes a collision hazard then it should take action under collision avoidance. Presumably FSD did not see this pedestrian as a collision hazard.
However we as human drivers can often see that the pedestrian is walking into danger (perhaps distractedly) and can take pre-emptive action (slow, honk, avoid, etc) before the pedestrian becomes a collision hazard.
One would hope that autonomous software might get to that level in time.
powertoold
Active Member
FSD beta has also been shown to predict that pedestrians are intending to cross (far from the car's path) and stopped appropriately, so it's not only about collision hazard or not.
andrewFW
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mikes_fsd
Banned
There is a little more than just "assume pedestrians will yield correctly"... it can also calculate speed and distance of the detected objects (bounding box) and determine that at a walking pace (3mph) the pedestrian will not cross the path of the car. It does seem to act human like in this instance.
If you notice the bounding box in TesLatino's video is light blue compared to the pedestrians on the sidewalks in dark blue.
It clearly sees this as different state.
Agreed. While the final goal is no doubt true FSD, it was wonderful to see just what’s been achieved so far with the betas. Looking forward to wider releases.
Thanks for the recommendation. I drove that diagonal yesterday and it was pretty uneventful. I recorded the whole drive but I need to watch the footage to see if it's interesting or not. It did recognize those 5 or 6-way intersections though. Looked nice on the screen but apart from that, it was quite "un-interesting" (not that FSD isn't interesting all the time!)
Thanks for trying it out! Good to hear that FSD beta didn't get confused by these 6-corner intersections -- some of them did seem quite complicated at least on a map without actually physically driving there, e.g., North / Damen / Milwaukee:
A bit further from the map I shared earlier would be all the way to Irving Park / Cicero / Milwaukee:
Checking if FSD beta would make the various left/right turns (where allowed) probably would take quite some time planning out what's a good test route in addition to waiting at a lot of red lights at these busy intersections. So being respectful of your time, no pressure in trying out more complex maneuvers here.
True! I was doing a simple test going through the intersection but I should probably thing about having difference scenarios (i.e straight in the intersection, turn left on the 1st left, turn left on the second left etc..). Maybe do each "path" clockwise. I'll take time to plan this one in order to cover all scenarios. The one that would be the most difficult, interesting would be the hair pin ones. Great suggestion, I'll start working on something.
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Excellent photos and clearly a worthy challenge for FSD. While it may be challenging, FSD should end up being better than a human driver in complicated intersections. As has been said many times (most notably by Elon, but I couldn't find the quote) the vehicle can look in many directions at once while a human only one direction at a time.
This thread may get a flurry of activity soon. I'll be scouring the interwebs watching for new videos to post. Rumor has it there will be some new beta testers.
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