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FSD price change in my account
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Uncle Don
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For those of us who don't have AP or EAP $9000 is way over the top for FSD. If AP drops to half of what is now I would buy that, but not at $3000 and then be expected to pay another $6000 for FSD. I've been driving myself for decades and can continue to do so. I see AP as a gimmick which is why I didn't pay $5000 for EAP when I bought my car. I'd pay $1500 for the gimmick but not more.
The funny thing is that Elon just warned us that the price of FSD is going up...trying to get us to move quickly before the prices go higher. And they did go up...for a couple of weeks. Now they are going down again. Why would anyone pay $6K for something that was $2K less than 60 days ago. This is getting silly.
verystandard
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"Full Self-Driving Capability is available for purchase post-delivery, prices are likely to increase over time with new feature releases"
I've learn a painful lesson when i purchased my SR+ back at March when he announced the price hike (I've also paid AP also because of FOMO price hike of AP after purchase).
If Elon wants me to pay him to help train the robotaxi he gotto lower the price of FSD more from here.
I've learn a painful lesson when i purchased my SR+ back at March when he announced the price hike (I've also paid AP also because of FOMO price hike of AP after purchase).
If Elon wants me to pay him to help train the robotaxi he gotto lower the price of FSD more from here.
I'd be curious to know if "most of us" is actually accurate. For me, at $2K it was an easy decision and I pulled the trigger. It was a pretty short-lived price point and I see people wishing they would have jumped on it. Not saying it is or isn't an accurate statement, but certainly not black and white.
My guess is that “most of us” who actively participate in the TMC forum bought FSD for $2K if they were eligible to purchase it during that time.
As for the general population of Tesla owners who have better things to do then actively monitor the threads in this forum, I would guess that most of them had no idea about the fire sale in March.
In my opinion, i wouldn't consider someone who bought EAP as an 'early adopter'. Most people that bought Tesla's would buy the Autopilot since that's a big selling point, so i don't see why you'd then give those people a free FSD upgrade.
The people that i consider to be early adopters are those who paid for FSD when ordering because we were told it would be more expensive later. I paid $3K for FSD back in September, for example, and ended up overpaying $1K compared to others who waited and had less faith/loaned less money to Tesla.
If anything, they need to start rewarding the people that they lied to when they said it would cost more after delivery and then they turned around and made it cheaper.
Edit: Further - I wouldn't say anything over $5K is "too much" for an early adopter as most early adopters typically are wealthier than later adopters. If you can plop down ~50K on a depreciating asset but then an extra $5K a year or two later isn't feasible, you probably shouldn't have bought the car in the first place.
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I'm not sure that saying "they lied to people is accurate". Up until recently, it's always been listed as an option that costs more adding it later, rather than purchasing at time of purchase. Excluding the fire sale of course. Pricing always changes, so doesn't mean they lied, just adjusted their pricing strategy. That being said, I get why people get upset when pricing is lower for those purchasing later. But, welcome to Tesla and their pricing changes.
You're making it seem like the "pricing gods" just decided to adjust things and Tesla had no control over it, which is not true. They made a conscious decision to reduce the price for a brief time span to entice additional people to buy into FSD. The fact that this "FSD sale" correlates with end of Q1 is further evidence that they did this not because "pricing changes", but because they wanted the additional revenue at the expense of their previous "promise" of prices only going up.
Pros
- More revenue for free at an earlier point which is HUGE in business.
- Piss off some existing customers.
Nope, not saying Tesla had no control over it, they certainly did. Just pointing out that stating they lied about it seems a little over the top. Every company makes business decisions on revenue needs. I agree with your point that it pisses off customers. Unfortunately Tesla does this on many fronts with pricing changes on the price of the car, not just FSD. So, I was just stating I don't think they are lying to customers, just how they do business, whether we like it or not, they adjust pricing on the car and features as they wish.
Edit: I'll add, I paid way more for the P3D Stealth than it is worth now, but it was the price I was willing to pay for what I was getting. But I don't feel they lied to me, it was the price at the time I was willing to pay for what I got and I'm good with my decision.
Even if we accept that "it'll be more expensive later" wasn't a lie, simply just stumbling over their own genitals, the claim that we're all getting invites to the early access program in exchange for being suckers before is pretty hard to describe as anything other than a lie.
Yea i paid more for mine that its worth now too, but that is VERY different because they never said "hey this car will cost more in the future" which they specifically did for FSD pricing. I dont really care that the car is cheaper now, that's great for adoption and letting more people drive one.
The main reason someone would buy FSD last year when there were ZERO features was solely because it was supposed to cost more in the future, so it's fairly rude for them to do what they did.
*ding*
It sure as hell wasn't out of the goodness of my icy, shriveled heart. The cost of rolling it into my loan and paying interest was lower than the after-purchase price difference, so I took the fiscally-correct option and gave them the benefit of the doubt. I got played, pure and simple.
I'm not getting an invite to the early access program, as I understand that was for people who ordered when it was listed on the website as $3k before being reduced to $2K. But I can't argue with the fact Tesla is stumbling over their genitals. But being lied to, and Tesla just changing pricing as they wish seems different to me. But to each their own. We all can feel how we wish.
Hey, I get it, not arguing it's frustrating. Just taking issue to the fact that Tesla lied. I don't think that was their intention and this is just how they do things. They don't think about pricing things properly and I don't think it's intentional. But hey, maybe. We can all interpret how we like.
I think they know exactly what they are doing with pricing. They are playing with the price to understand how elastic the demand is for the car and the timing of all the price adjustments further supports that they are lowering prices specifically to increase sales/revenue. There really isn't any other good reason to reduce a price other than to motivate sales, frankly, or you are just throwing away money.
People like to say that Tesla is "passing on savings to the customer from production improvements" but think about that for a second, why would a corporation want to purposely reduce their revenue per product? Answer: elastic demand. Elon has even said as much by saying things like "we have unlimited demand, it's just the price that holds us back".
I agree that reducing the price of the car itself is NOT a lie since no where on the website did it say "Will be +3K in 3 months". FSD, on the other hand, specifically said that it would cost more post-delivery in writing with no ambiguity.
Saying its "just how they do things" implies there is no logic or reason to their decisions which is antithetical to everything Elon stands for (physics, first principles etc.). They weighed the pros and cons and decided revenue was worth more and to be honest, i would probably have done the same thing if i was at Tesla - but it sucks as a customer.
Price we pay to help Tesla survive until they are more mainstream and i'm OK with that, but it sucks.
