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FSD Price Cut to $12k Tonight, Aug 31/ Sept 1 2023
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When is version 12 going to be released? Looked like that one was going to be a fully AI driven system which makes it a lot more interesting.
SalisburySam
Active Member
TL;DR - no, hell no.
I bought FSD with my then-new Tesla in 2018 for $3000 (after the prerequisite EAP purchase of $5000). In retrospect over the decades of my life, I’ve made many financial decisions that were not in my best interests. By far, this purchase was the worst.
I bought FSD with my then-new Tesla in 2018 for $3000 (after the prerequisite EAP purchase of $5000). In retrospect over the decades of my life, I’ve made many financial decisions that were not in my best interests. By far, this purchase was the worst.
All profit-seeking companies are "greedy", Tesla has fiduciary and legal obligations to its investors/shareholders.
Prices are coming down because they need to come down to move the volumes that Tesla built factories for, it's really as simple as that. Tesla built the factories, committed to raw materials/parts orders with suppliers, massively ramped up production, and those produced cars need to move. And then central banks started increasing interest rates, which was specifically intended to cool demand for things like cars and thus bring it into better balance with supply that would push prices down.
None of this is altruistic lol, if Tesla didn't cut prices then they would be sitting on unsold inventory that would be even worse for investors.
CTruck_BMW
23’ MS
What do you mean? I also have an address in Idaho. Why are you having issues finding a Tesla insurance? State farm charges me 155 USD/month even without their Drive-Safe-and-Save GPS tracker. With that I could have paid 120 USD/month. 155 USD/m is pretty good based on the amounts I have been paying for a more expensive Mbenz and BMW vehicles that I had and still have (registered in Idaho). Never heard of any incident wherein FSD is a must have even in other states.
ATPMSD
Active Member
In my opinion, no, not even close. Auto pilot is even a stretch but at least functional and I'd probably buy it again if I purchase a new Tesla. Paying over $10K for a beta is not my cup of tea. I don't usually buy into futures anyway so I won't buy a product until it's working.
The day my car can reliably and consistently come get me, and drive me home from the pub, is the day I "1-click purchase" FSD for $15K w/o hesitating.
The day my car can reliably and consistently come get me, and drive me home from the pub, is the day I "1-click purchase" FSD for $15K w/o hesitating.
The day Tesla assumes full liability for the car while using FSD to come get me and drive me somewhere is when I click the purchase button for 15k.
Tha_Ape
Active Member
Cheburashka
Active Member
Definitely no.
I paid $3K for FSD and I still think it wasn't really worth it.
I paid $3K for FSD and I still think it wasn't really worth it.
I won't copy/past the whole thing but there's an interesting tweet from Gary Black regarding FSD pricing. Maybe not so much about deflation and more about not being worth the price of admission. It would be interesting to have a poll of what price FSD owners would be willing to repurchase FSD.
Watts_Up
Well-Known Member
Buying up front FSD instead of getting a subscription really depends of your usage,
and also how long you plan to keep your car, unless transfer becomes a possibility.
If you only take short trips, you might not feel the need to use FSD very often,
but if you start taking long trips of few hours, FSD can be worthwhile.
In my case I paid $4k for EAP and later $2k for FSD and I really appreciate having the full FSD.
In partixular after a long day at work, it is very relaxing to use FSD, especially at night,
when you have the light of the cars coming in front of you. FSD keep the car
perfectly in the center of your lane even when you get dazzled by car headlights.
FSD is not perfect and has limitations, but many improvements have been made recently. For example
while driving around town, when your lane splits in two branches, I noticed that FSD no longer hesitates
and keeps the car in the correct lane following the navigation route. Whereas in the past FSD often
hesitated and swung between the left lane and the right lane..
There have been a lot of small improvements, for example when passing a bug truck, the car moves away
from the center of the lane to avoid been too close to the truck. But one limitation that I still encounter
is that FSD don't know to slow down in advance when there is a coming curve and accelerate progressively
when exiting from a curve like an experienced driver would do. So I still prefer controlling the speed
using the left scroll button on the steering wheel.
A particular feature that I like is that FSD is great for changing lane to pass other vehicles and then for
going back into the lane after passing a vehicle. When passing a vehicle you constantly need to look
in front of you, in the rearview mirror and the side mirror at the same time, but FSD is great at doing this.
Also after passing a vehicle, as it is often difficult to estimate if you are too close or far away enough
to move back to your lane, and FSD is a great help in this situation.
and also how long you plan to keep your car, unless transfer becomes a possibility.
If you only take short trips, you might not feel the need to use FSD very often,
but if you start taking long trips of few hours, FSD can be worthwhile.
In my case I paid $4k for EAP and later $2k for FSD and I really appreciate having the full FSD.
In partixular after a long day at work, it is very relaxing to use FSD, especially at night,
when you have the light of the cars coming in front of you. FSD keep the car
perfectly in the center of your lane even when you get dazzled by car headlights.
FSD is not perfect and has limitations, but many improvements have been made recently. For example
while driving around town, when your lane splits in two branches, I noticed that FSD no longer hesitates
and keeps the car in the correct lane following the navigation route. Whereas in the past FSD often
hesitated and swung between the left lane and the right lane..
There have been a lot of small improvements, for example when passing a bug truck, the car moves away
from the center of the lane to avoid been too close to the truck. But one limitation that I still encounter
is that FSD don't know to slow down in advance when there is a coming curve and accelerate progressively
when exiting from a curve like an experienced driver would do. So I still prefer controlling the speed
using the left scroll button on the steering wheel.
A particular feature that I like is that FSD is great for changing lane to pass other vehicles and then for
going back into the lane after passing a vehicle. When passing a vehicle you constantly need to look
in front of you, in the rearview mirror and the side mirror at the same time, but FSD is great at doing this.
Also after passing a vehicle, as it is often difficult to estimate if you are too close or far away enough
to move back to your lane, and FSD is a great help in this situation.
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Earlier this year I was trying to get my two stroke weed wacker going. Those pull string are great for the deltoids, not always so good for starting an engine.
I looked it over and low and behold there was a hole in the case for a specialized bit called "speed start". So I went out and bought this bit for $8. It works beautifully. I don't understand why every small engine doesn't have this bit. I would have to say it's the best $8 I've ever spent.
I assume FSD is on the opposite end of the spectrum. If I were to buy FSB I assume I'd feel the exact opposite of the feeling I had buying that speed start bit but multiplied by 1500.
I looked it over and low and behold there was a hole in the case for a specialized bit called "speed start". So I went out and bought this bit for $8. It works beautifully. I don't understand why every small engine doesn't have this bit. I would have to say it's the best $8 I've ever spent.
I assume FSD is on the opposite end of the spectrum. If I were to buy FSB I assume I'd feel the exact opposite of the feeling I had buying that speed start bit but multiplied by 1500.
Watts_Up
Well-Known Member
I think that example would apply for deciding between not having any assistance, having Enhanced Autopilot, or having Full Self-Driving Capability,
with the additional option to buy this feature or getting a temporary monthly subscription.
BitJam
Active Member
Tesla does offers used cars with FSD. Just look at their used car website.
