GlynG
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I presume the fact that Tesla offered the transfer of fsd to a new car with a clause that once sold on FSD would be removed - suggests to me a chink of light at the end of a tunnel.
Believing Tesla as a company are dishonest and Elon Musk a money grabbing arsehole they want to offload the current model 3 prior to launching the new model 3 (like all manufacturers do) so a little sweetener is offered to encourage people to do it - But, I remember their last offer to take early delivery with 6000 miles free supercharging and once the cars were picked up promptly devalued them by discounting new cars by up to £8K. So offers from Tesla have a hidden agenda - they aren't being nice because they don't know how to be - its greed.
The fact Tesla introduced that clause suggests to me that perhaps there is a big step forward in the potential of FSD on the horizon - Tesla and Elon want a share of the commercial value of a car that could perform FSD and by allowing the transfer to a new car gets them a new sale but then restricting the inclusion of FSD on a future sale of that vehicle must indicate there is a commercial advantage for them to do that. Now currently FSD in the UK is absolutely worthless, Its better in the USA but still with lots of flaws and as it has had some improvement in the USA over the last year or so they raised the price of it to $15000 - so they charge more the more useful they consider it performs
FSD equipped Tesla's sold privately have always kept the feature as it was a paid for extra - to suddenly have the mindset to generate a clause to prevent that occurring again means there has to be something they don't want continuing and owners passing FSD on. Obviously they cant introduce a new clause for existing owners but they can as a condition of a new sale - and so they tried it.
Whatever the reason for the climbdown the fact they introduced it means they have to feel FSD will soon be more than a pipe dream and they want their share.
If FSD ever works as Elon believes it will, FSD will be more of a money spinner for them than the cars themselves.
Believing Tesla as a company are dishonest and Elon Musk a money grabbing arsehole they want to offload the current model 3 prior to launching the new model 3 (like all manufacturers do) so a little sweetener is offered to encourage people to do it - But, I remember their last offer to take early delivery with 6000 miles free supercharging and once the cars were picked up promptly devalued them by discounting new cars by up to £8K. So offers from Tesla have a hidden agenda - they aren't being nice because they don't know how to be - its greed.
The fact Tesla introduced that clause suggests to me that perhaps there is a big step forward in the potential of FSD on the horizon - Tesla and Elon want a share of the commercial value of a car that could perform FSD and by allowing the transfer to a new car gets them a new sale but then restricting the inclusion of FSD on a future sale of that vehicle must indicate there is a commercial advantage for them to do that. Now currently FSD in the UK is absolutely worthless, Its better in the USA but still with lots of flaws and as it has had some improvement in the USA over the last year or so they raised the price of it to $15000 - so they charge more the more useful they consider it performs
FSD equipped Tesla's sold privately have always kept the feature as it was a paid for extra - to suddenly have the mindset to generate a clause to prevent that occurring again means there has to be something they don't want continuing and owners passing FSD on. Obviously they cant introduce a new clause for existing owners but they can as a condition of a new sale - and so they tried it.
Whatever the reason for the climbdown the fact they introduced it means they have to feel FSD will soon be more than a pipe dream and they want their share.
If FSD ever works as Elon believes it will, FSD will be more of a money spinner for them than the cars themselves.