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Model 3 VINs (@Model3VINs) | Twitter
At least on September 24, November 3 and November 15 it was tweeted that a few VINs which are supposed to be for the European market were registered.
Not sure about reusing vehicle battery in stationary storage. I think the chemistry of vehicle batteries are tuned towards energy density, rather than cycle life. 88kWh pack there would cycle at least a few times a day - if you assume 3 miles per kWh, three cycles of 88kWh equates to 792 miles a day, 290k miles a year. I wouldn't think these batteries last more than three years...
Do EU bound S/X vins normally appear in the same service? If so, then that does seem like a valid expecation. If not, it might have just been a fluke due to whatever system automatically posts those through not differentiating markets yet.
Either 2 or 3 years ago at the Tampa, Florida, United States boat show, the German Torquedo boat motor folks were showing a repurposed BMW I-3 battery pack for marine use with their engines.
They were saying then it was around $28,000 for 33kWh if my memory is good.
Have the packs been derated? It was an outrageous price even then though
Add more batteries and/or reduce output to shift the energy to power ratio (C rate and # of cycles)
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
If the packs are used for peak shaving, they won't need to deliver the entire amount of energy for any single charge. Ideally, they'd communicate with the grid controller and limit peak rate consumption. Anyway, that's Tesla's intention with adding Powerpacks at Supercharger sites.
Cheers!
Driver Dave
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"Once again we present the very best new cars you can buy..."
2018 10Best Cars: The Best Cars for Sale in America Today | Feature | Car and Driver
Except... Tesla Model 3.
This is hilarious.
How can they ignore the Model 3?
Look at these dinosaurs!
Really? this is a top 10 interior? It looks so dated already.
The top 10 for 2018 should be this list:
1. Tesla Model 3
And that's it.
They are all Nokia, making their flip phones, about to die.
TSLA Long. It is so so so obvious.
2018 10Best Cars: The Best Cars for Sale in America Today | Feature | Car and Driver
Except... Tesla Model 3.
This is hilarious.
How can they ignore the Model 3?
Look at these dinosaurs!
Really? this is a top 10 interior? It looks so dated already.
The top 10 for 2018 should be this list:
1. Tesla Model 3
And that's it.
They are all Nokia, making their flip phones, about to die.
TSLA Long. It is so so so obvious.
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
Top 10 interior for 14 year old boys, from five years ago.
I query whether Tesla will continue with its "Europe next" plan given the weird Chinese tariff situation, where tariffs will be lower for three months and then are likely to go back up again. We may see Chinese VINs registered next?
Buckminster
Well-Known Member
Are you kidding me. I'm loving it. That red Honda sign in the middle of the steering wheel is lush...(as they say in Wales) It's like the Batman sign.Really? this is a top 10 interior? It looks so dated already.
Tesla have the Fart button, Honda have the Kapow button:
That would be likely if Tesla had not already obtained superb deals from Shanghai, where the mayor insists CKD production will begin 2nd half 2019 and the final product is NOT in a duty free zone. What other accomodations ahve been made? I do not know but I am quite positive that Chinese Model 3 sales will be exceedingly robust, higher than in the US once their scale has been achieved, say late 2020.
sweter
Member
Nah, my guess is they're gonna continue like crazy with US production until 23:59 31.12 so they still have some inventory for January + potential "in the last 7 days we produced 7k Model 3's" quote in the deliveries report. Then a some shutdown for maintainance, employee cool down and adjusting the lines for EU changes. And only then start actual EU production. And AFAIK VINs don't need to be "registered" before production starts, so there may be some delay until actual 1st EU cars roll off the line and we see its VIN somewhere inbetween production start and production complete.
Well, sure, but some Chinese reservation holders may want to get their car in early 2019 rather than late 2020! People *do* get impatient. Why not do it while they've got cheap tarriffs; they can back off again before the Chinese Gigafactory is finished.
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
American factories don't work on New Years' Eve. Expect half a day of production on Dec 31 with no 2nd shift that day, then no shifts at all on New Year's Day.
I expect a similar shutdown for Christmas Eve/Day, so reduction of 3.0 days of Model 3 production, or 3K units approx. for the Holidays.
But the double time required to operate then would make the cars unprofitable, and the workers very unhappy. Enough people might call in sick to cause a shutdown anyway.
Cheers!
RobStark
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Nissan to lay off 1,000 workers at Aguascalientes, Cuernavaca plants
The layoffs will only occur at the Nissan plants where the Kicks, March, Versa and Sentra vehicles are manufactured, as well as in Cuernavaca, where the NP300 Frontier and a variant for Renault are built.
The layoffs will only occur at the Nissan plants where the Kicks, March, Versa and Sentra vehicles are manufactured, as well as in Cuernavaca, where the NP300 Frontier and a variant for Renault are built.
A Chinese engineer formerly in the apple car project was arrested for stealing from Apple. He has stolen computer boards from hardware vaults and downloaded large amount of confidential files on his last day with Apple. At that time he had an offer from xpeng. And he was arrested on his way back to China.
Just one data point xpeng hired some morally corrupted and mentally retarded person.
Why are some folks here expecting EU/China VINS to be different?
Here's how you decode the Tesla Model 3 VIN per decoder here, doesn't seem region specific, or different for LHD/RHD (drive)
Once GF3 begins production in China, who assigns the VINS USA OR some some China Agency? I would think China agency?
~ Cheers.
Here's how you decode the Tesla Model 3 VIN per decoder here, doesn't seem region specific, or different for LHD/RHD (drive)
Once GF3 begins production in China, who assigns the VINS USA OR some some China Agency? I would think China agency?
~ Cheers.
Absolutely, that is why there are already ships on their way to China loaded with new Teslas, including Model 3. The reduced prices right now should drive quite high volumes pre-Chinese New Years. I hope that is correct; I think that is correct.
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