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Are you sure you have the D model actually installed (presumably though you didn't get to see the actual part before the installed)? I remember up thread, the UK did not have D models available yet, so the SCs are still installing older ones. Did you do the black tape test to confirm if it really is glare from blinkers that is leaking (as opposed to naturally some light reflecting back)?My rev. D’s are still giving me glare albeit not as bad.
Fair point, I didn’t actually see the camera parts numbers just too them from the invoice. What is the black tape test? I assume just tape on the indicator to isolate the light leakage ?Are you sure you have the D model actually installed (presumably though you didn't get to see the actual part before the installed)? I remember up thread, the UK did not have D models available yet, so the SCs are still installing older ones. Did you do the black tape test to confirm if it really is glare from blinkers that is leaking (as opposed to naturally some light reflecting back)?
Taping over the camera with a black tape and turn on the blinker. If there is light leak it will show up as magenta when the blinker is on. Just a very quick and easy way to test (without needing pitch dark conditions).Fair point, I didn’t actually see the camera parts numbers just too them from the invoice. What is the black tape test? I assume just tape on the indicator to isolate the light leakage ?
Same build date. How big is the improvement over our current side markers? Worth spending the cash?I'm annoyed that I had to pay for my replacements (March 2020 car)
I’ll try that today, I taped the indicator but had little to no affect so I’m suspecting it internal light pollution.Taping over the camera with a black tape and turn on the blinker. If there is light leak it will show up as magenta when the blinker is on. Just a very quick and easy way to test (without needing pitch dark conditions).
Glare from side repeaters in blind spot camera?
Yes, the previous issue was internal light leakage.I’ll try that today, I taped the indicator but had little to no affect so I’m suspecting it internal light pollution.
But apparently I had rev. D installed on MondayYes, the previous issue was internal light leakage.
Dare I suggest you check yourself?Same build date. How big is the improvement over our current side markers? Worth spending the cash?
Umm, what? Yes, you can turn it off.To me it is a safety issue because it not only makes the turn signal blind spot display unusable, but at night it is very distracting having bright blinking video in the corner of your eye, and you can't turn off the display.
If NHTSA did say anything Tesla's response would likely to be to remove the feature. After all your car didn't come with it, so they don't owe it to you.Maybe a complaint to the NTSB would help convince Tesla that this should be fixed?
I guess there is a chance that the "new ones" would have the same problem if they replaced them with the new-old-stock of the older repeater design. But if they actually replace with the new/current design cameras, the problem should be completely resolved.My repeater cameras have the same flaw. From what I read, the 2018 models had badly-designed camera, and that later new repeater cameras were designed that didn't have this problem (there was a whole YouTube video somewhere about taking them apart and fixing the light leak yourself but it was a hassle.) I have had several service calls in about this (and other camera-related issues), and the Burbank Tesla people say just live with it - and that if they DID replace the repeaters with news ones, they would have the same problem. To me it is a safety issue because it not only makes the turn signal blind spot display unusable, but at night it is very distracting having bright blinking video in the corner of your eye, and you can't turn off the display. Maybe a complaint to the NTSB would help convince Tesla that this should be fixed?
I agree with this. I don't think the NHTSA route is going to yield success. My suggestion would be either to turn it off, if you don't want to see the design flaw that was introduced after your car was delivered (by enabling the driver to see the repeater cams) ... or decide that you want to pay to add this new capability, functioning correctly, to your vehicle and get a service center to do the work to replace it with the correct new parts.If NHTSA did say anything Tesla's response would likely to be to remove the feature. After all your car didn't come with it, so they don't owe it to you.Maybe a complaint to the NTSB would help convince Tesla that this should be fixed?
Took into the service center (Bend, OR). Job was done in about 2 hours (which spanned over the lunch hour). $306 in parts, $30 in labor.
I don't know the history of the pricing of these parts ... so I cannot directly answer your question.did they increase the price of the cameras, or is that including tax? i thought previously i had seen that they were $130 each. trying to decide if i want to order them directly from tesla or just get them on ebay...going to install them myself, the service videos show it to be a pretty easy swap.
I don't know the history of the pricing of these parts ... so I cannot directly answer your question.
Oregon doesn't have sales tax, so the prices I referenced were simply what I paid for parts and labor.
However, I should have stated before that my parts installation costs included not only the new repeater cameras (charged $143/ea) ... but also the chrome trim for the cameras (which is a one-time use item and must be replaced as well, unless you a running a de-chromed M3).
The chrome trim for the new camera cost $10/ea. So that is where my $306 total parts number came from (2 x $143 + 2 x $10).
I agree that, from what I have seen, it should be an easy-ish DIY swap. I chose not to do it myself because I told myself I would have a stronger position of argument if the issue wasn't resolved by the replacement (which I paid for out of pocket). But, if it had cost substantially more than $30 labor, I would have seriously considered doing it myself. As it is, I didn't do that.