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Group Buy Poll for Mono-Block Forged Alloy Wheels by Titan 7

Discussion in 'Model 3: Interior & Exterior' started by Xenoilphobe, Aug 16, 2018.

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Which mono block forged wheel size, color and style would you like?

Poll closed Mar 16, 2019.
  1. T-R10 FORGED 10 SPOKE in Machine Black in 19 X 9 with +35 ET

    10.9%
  2. T-R10 FORGED 10 SPOKE in Satin Titanium in 19 X 9 with +35 ET

    18.0%
  3. T-R10 FORGED 10 SPOKE in Machine Black in 18 X 8.5 +40 ET (STOCK SIZE - 18 - T-R10)

    3.3%
  4. T-R10 FORGED 10 SPOKE in Satin Titanium in 18 X 8.5 +40 ET (STOCK SIZE - 18 - T-R10)

    6.0%
  5. T-S5 FORGED SPLIT 5 SPOKE in Satin Titanium in 19 X 9 with +35 ET

    26.2%
  6. T-S5 FORGED SPLIT 5 SPOKE in Machine Black in 19 X 9 with +35 ET

    18.6%
  7. T-S5 FORGED SPLIT 5 SPOKE in Satin Titanium in 18 X 8.5 +40 ET (STOCK SIZE - 18 - T-S5)

    16.9%
  8. T-S5 FORGED SPLIT 5 SPOKE in Machine Black in 18 X 8.5 +40 ET (STOCK SIZE - 18 - T-S5)

    6.0%
  9. T-R10 FORGED 10 SPOKE in Satin Titanium in 19 X 9.5 +45 +35 ET

    3.3%
  10. T-R10 FORGED 10 SPOKE in Machine Black in 19 X 9.5 +35 ET

    2.2%
  11. T-S5 FORGED SPLIT SPOKE in Satin Titanium in 19 X 9.5 +35 ET

    16.4%
  12. T-S5 FORGED SPLIT SPOKE in Machine Black in 19 X 9.5 +35 ET

    9.3%
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  1. Perry

    Perry Member

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    I agree that if wider tires are the main goal for grip not efficiency the 19x9.5 +35 on 265/35 19 tires is probably the best and they would fit both in front and back. This would have them 22mm closer to the fender and only 10mm closer to the suspension which would clear since that is less than 1/2 in. That would also keep the total wheel diameter closes to stock at only 1mm deviation (smaller). 275/35 19 tires on that same rim would be cutting it too close in the front with 15mm closer to the suspension which is the entire clearance.

    Now I know Sasha and others have said that for handling, a square setup is the way to go but can someone explain again from a technical standpoint why that is?

    I ask because going as wide in the front as in the rear also screws up the scrub radius. The setup described above would cause a positive scrub radius of about 5 mm. This may negatively affect the car's handling. So staying with stock width in the front may be the safer but the rears would not have to since they don't turn hence no scrub radius issue.

    Another question I had is even assuming a square setup, it it bad to have the rear track wider? The rear wheels have a 10mm grater fender clearance than the front so going with 19x9.5 +35 front and 9x9.5 +25 rear would make a more even flush look between front and back. Is there an issue with wider track in rear from a handling point of view?
     
  2. Perry

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    I wonder if the Titans 18" will fit on the MPP big brake kit? The only reason I am getting 19" is to fit over those.
     
  3. Tricked

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    My measurements were done after several hundred miles to allow the springs to settle and at ride height with factory camber specs. I can only imagine that there would be more negative camber as the suspension compresses over bumps. I read the review from the individual who has the white M3 and Vorsteiner V-FF 103 images on their website. He stated he does not have rubbing issues with 20x9 +38 with 245/35 front and 20x10.5 +45 with 275/30 rear on UP moderate springs. I also spoke with a Vorsteiner sales rep who stated they offer those dimensions for best fitment. I based that information with my measurements and the factory specs for staggered 19" wheels using this calculator. This is how I came up with 9" +38 front with 245 width and 10" +40 rear with 275 width. I aimed to keep overall diameter as close as possible to stock. All this is based on unknown inner clearances. So in theory, if there is more inner clearance, wider tires may fit. This is assuming the wheel/tire combination does not sit any further towards the fender as to avoid rubbing issues.
     
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    Is it possible for these wheels to have the unicorn setup?

    Be 18 inch, fit on the performance upgrade Model 3 and also be able to take the Aero covers to maximize range?
     
  5. Lucky13

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    Sorry did not read thru whole thread but is there a reason the 19x9.5 TR10s have two different offsets only in the titanium satin?

    Would love to have both in same offset(+35)

    Also how do I go about making the purchase happen or do we have to wait for group buy to commence in order to get these? Would like to get these before end of year as I have a track day I would like to attend in Jan.
     
  6. Xenoilphobe

    Xenoilphobe Active Member

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    @Lucky13
    Oversight, in my rush to get this poll working, I screwed it up, and the damn forum software doesn't allow you to change anything after about an hour.
    Evasive has a couple of Model 3's at their office today for fitment session, and we will know what options will fit.

    MPP has confirmed that 19 X 9.5 with +35 ET will fit with a 265 tire with and ADVAN II wheel, but we are checking to make sure a Titan 7 in both the 10 spoke and 5 spoke will fit too. Also there are ton requests for the 18 X 8.5 in 35 ET for the stock P3D+ fitment, which might fit, but the rear calipers are huge on this car with the P3D+ package......

    Colors can easily be changed, I would call Mike Chang at:

    Evasive Motorsports
    11829 Hamden Pl.
    Santa Fe Springs, CA 90670

    Telephone
    Sales and Support: 626.336.3400
    Fax: 626.336.3406
    [email protected]
    www.evasivemotorsports.com
     
  7. P85+ Hunter :)

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    Can you post pics of the different options once they have them fitted? That would be great for different color options (especially curious to seeing a black 3 with bronze rims :D)
     
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  8. atlas310

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    Is there a rough timeline of when other wheel styles will be available? 3 weeks? 3 months? A year?
     
  9. Vines

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    When i inquired tom Evasive they indicated 3 months -ish.
     
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    Did they give any idea of how many styles they were working on?
     
  11. Vines

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    You can see the 2 styles in the poll. There will probably be others down the road.
     
  12. AnarchyEOD

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    So have we decided on sizes?!
     
  13. Amp3d

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    Any updates from the test fitting on a P3D+?
     
  14. Xenoilphobe

    Xenoilphobe Active Member

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    I haven't heard anything yet, but then again I have been on travel this week... scrolling through 1300ish emails now..
     
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  15. bruh

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    That looks quite nice!

    My vote:
    T-S5 FORGED SPLIT 5 SPOKE in Satin Titanium in 19 X 9 with +35 ET
     
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  16. 4sevens.com

    4sevens.com Member

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    I’m waiting on whether 18x8.5 fits p3d+
     
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  17. doctaj

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    Agreed
     
  18. AnarchyEOD

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    I don’t even have a P3 and that’s all I want. A black stock sized square setup....
     
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  19. UltralightBeam

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    +1 on an 18” Setup for M3P+ But I also wish there was an option for a 20” replacement for the 20” on the M3P+ where I could swap the tires onto the new wheels.

    Trying to play catchup here but does anyone have a direct link to the post for group buy prices for each of these?
     
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  20. Xenoilphobe

    Xenoilphobe Active Member

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    I am pretty sure the pricing will be based on wheel sizes.. larger wheels (Width X Diameter) drive the costs, because its more forged aluminum material, more shipping costs, more tooling costs, etc. etc. When I started this poll I personally wanted an 18 X 8.5 - 9.5 with whatever appropriate ET to fit...for ~$2K.... but I don't want to make any comments until Mike and Eddie get all the details... and I don't want to dash any hopes for those folks who want something more exotic, which could drive the costs up, but could still be doable based on the massive demand... both Mike and Eddie have shared that many of you are reaching out direct for specific fitment, so they know there is good market here -- and will work to nail down a solution(s) that will work.

    I would love it, if they worked with @MountainPass to track test a couple of fitments to show us what each wheel is capable of an a track in the lightest fitment that can get over the rear calibers..

    Lets sit tight and let Mike (Evasive Motors) and Eddie (Titan) get back to me on best fitment. I also agree that we are in the 90 day window on seeing this to fruition...
     
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