Jwatts2344
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And you joined Tesla forum to discuss Ford car?
Wow, tough crowd. You won't have to worry about me bothering you again.
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And you joined Tesla forum to discuss Ford car?
You are welcome. I belong to other EV forums/thread/FBgroups.Wow, tough crowd. You won't have to worry about me bothering you again.
Personally, I enjoy hearing about people’s experience with other makes. If someone doesn’t, they can hit ignore on this thread.Wow, tough crowd. You won't have to worry about me bothering you again.
And if you only have a pro or even XLT - you get none of these features. I would have had to spend another $19-29k to get lane keep / blue cruise. Absolute insanity, you don’t get anywhere close to 30k worth of additional value. All you really get is a different badge on the carThe lane keep isn’t as advanced as Autopilot. The positive is you can steer the car while in lane keep, unlike Autopilot. As impressive as Autopilot can be, I prefer the systems from Ford, Hyundai, Mercedes, etc.
Common examples include passing semis and other trucks (bias my car away from them within the lane), exit appears (keep the car in the highway lane), lanes merge/wide lane (drive straight, no AP weirdness). You can also speed up and maneuver to your heart‘s content.
EA sucks compared to Superchargers. Sometimes it works perfectly, sometimes nothing works right. Depends a good deal on the specific stations and their hardware, electric source, etc. Their software and payment system sucks in general though. Infrastructure shouldn’t be a crapshoot. I hope they fire Giovanni Palazzo and turn it around.
And if you only have a pro or even XLT - you get none of these features. I would have had to spend another $19-29k to get lane keep / blue cruise. Absolute insanity, you don’t get anywhere close to 30k worth of additional value. All you really get is a different badge on the car
Will likely never buy a non Tesla again. I value the lack of nickle and diming from Tesla for features. You generally get everything in the base model, then only pay extra for a very few # of things.
Complete opposite from Ford. There are an bazillion options / trims and all sort of complicated and illogical dependencies. They are only there to push the price higher than the falsely advertised “base” . And don’t get me started on the whole dealership model!
We will keep our F150 XLT SR until it can be replaced with a cyber truck. It still think is the best value large family EV vehicle on the market. Our family of 5 fits perfectly - with endless storage in the frunk and bed.
It does really ride really quite amazingly. Buttery smooth, fast, etc. It’s just missing any form of modern tech. The software / UI / UX is an absolute joke :/. Charging is a joke. The app is a joke.
Ours was 52k - rebates. So 41k ish all in. Not that bad for a basic EV people mover.
And if you only have a pro or even XLT - you get none of these features. I would have had to spend another $19-29k to get lane keep / blue cruise. Absolute insanity, you don’t get anywhere close to 30k worth of additional value. All you really get is a different badge on the car
Will likely never buy a non Tesla again. I value the lack of nickle and diming from Tesla for features. You generally get everything in the base model, then only pay extra for a very few # of things.
Complete opposite from Ford. There are an bazillion options / trims and all sort of complicated and illogical dependencies. They are only there to push the price higher than the falsely advertised “base” . And don’t get me started on the whole dealership model!
We will keep our F150 XLT SR until it can be replaced with a cyber truck. It still think is the best value large family EV vehicle on the market. Our family of 5 fits perfectly - with endless storage in the frunk and bed.
It does really ride really quite amazingly. Buttery smooth, fast, etc. It’s just missing any form of modern tech. The software / UI / UX is an absolute joke :/. Charging is a joke. The app is a joke.
Ours was 52k - rebates. So 41k ish all in. Not that bad for a basic EV people mover.
I can’t keep up with all of the changes. Before this year Teslas didn’t get credits, and Fords did. Then Tesla slashed prices up to $20k. I went on the site tonight and the Lightning Pro model comes standard with Copilot 360. Bluecruise is a free 3 year trial with all Co pilot hardware.And if you only have a pro or even XLT - you get none of these features. I would have had to spend another $19-29k to get lane keep / blue cruise. Absolute insanity, you don’t get anywhere close to 30k worth of additional value. All you really get is a different badge on the car
Will likely never buy a non Tesla again. I value the lack of nickle and diming from Tesla for features. You generally get everything in the base model, then only pay extra for a very few # of things.
Complete opposite from Ford. There are an bazillion options / trims and all sort of complicated and illogical dependencies. They are only there to push the price higher than the falsely advertised “base” . And don’t get me started on the whole dealership model!
We will keep our F150 XLT SR until it can be replaced with a cyber truck. It still think is the best value large family EV vehicle on the market. Our family of 5 fits perfectly - with endless storage in the frunk and bed.
It does really ride really quite amazingly. Buttery smooth, fast, etc. It’s just missing any form of modern tech. The software / UI / UX is an absolute joke :/. Charging is a joke. The app is a joke.
Ours was 52k - rebates. So 41k ish all in. Not that bad for a basic EV people mover.
I can’t keep up with all of the changes. Before this year Teslas didn’t get credits, and Fords did. Then Tesla slashed prices up to $20k. I went on the site tonight and the Lightning Pro model comes standard with Copilot 360. Bluecruise is a free 3 year trial with all Co pilot hardware.
The Lariat I have is chock full of features. Huge powered frunk, power tailgate, 11 outlets, lights everywhere, heated/vented seats, heated steering wheel, bed scales, work surface, hands free driving assistant (better than autopilot), 360 camera, cameras for bed, hitch, blind spot monitoring, enormous interior space, rear under seat storage, power moonroof (with powder shade) and rear window, running boards, exterior light bars, etc. Software is pretty good too, including the app. OTA has actually been awesome (UI improvements, fast charge preconditioning)
It’s got everything but massage seats which were not an option for the trim. With the credit I got the truck is in line with the Raptor which makes sense. Now I don’t know about the Tesla 3/Y perf, but it’s got more top end power than my 3 LR. 60-90 mph pull is strong.
The overwhelming feeling I have about the truck is value for money. All of the features are well thought out and come in handy. Whatever you do, do not look into Porsches if you think Ford nickles and dimes.
What's the range on it under load (meaning, how far can it pull a 10000 lb trailer, for instance)? I mean, doing things that a pickup is supposed to be able to do.My Lariat came out to $69k after all was said and done. Great value for what you get. It’s an F-150, that’s all you need to know. The ride is amazing, better than some luxury cars to be honest. The CT will have to match that suspension and I have a feeling it’s going to fall short.
What's the range on it under load (meaning, how far can it pull a 10000 lb trailer, for instance)? I mean, doing things that a pickup is supposed to be able to do.
Show of hands. Who tows a 10,000lb trailer?
I'm curious what they are towing that is 10,000 lbs?Actually, many people I know use pickups for work and not just to drive to the beach.
It's not wise to be at the maximum payload or towing limits if your going to do so regularly. Neither the F-150 Lightning or future CT are suitable for that, and any EV is a bad choice for long distance towing. At that point, one needs to move up to an F-250 or 350.
Exactly. Horse trailers going to herd cattle, rodeo, etc.I'm curious what they are towing that is 10,000 lbs?
Are many things they tow way less than that though? (examples below)
And a follow up is how far do they typically tow it?
Horse/live stock trailer? RV trailer? Boat?
A horse trailer designed to transport one or two horses typically weighs between 2,300 and 3,900 pounds. With horses and cargo loaded, this number increases. The average empty weight of a horse trailer is about 2,900 pounds. When loaded up, small horse trailers max out at 7,000 or 8,000 pounds (GVWR).
Range of Lighting under load. I don't know why you think it's a weird question. I honestly want to know.The Cybertruck hasn’t been proven to tow anything, so that answers the question you are looking for
I agree with you. It's still an honest question. I would like to know the towing capabilities independent of maximum load. Say, half load. People I know haul with their trucks. I think that they would only entertain an EV pickup if they knew what it could do.It's not wise to be at the maximum payload or towing limits if your going to do so regularly. Neither the F-150 Lightning or future CT are suitable for that, and any EV is a bad choice for long distance towing. At that point, one needs to move up to an F-250 or 350.