How many will look into the F-150 Lightning?

[KJD]

I need to fly to Utah. I have yet to see a Pro/XLT trim even close to MSRP in SoCal.

Umm don't buy that plan ticket just yet. All three of these trucks where Lariat trim and priced around 88 to 90k.

 

[ThomasD]

If you don't mind stopping every hour and a half to charge while towing and there are chargers on your route then these vehicles seem to do pretty good. They don't work for everyone and that is ok.

 

[holeydonut]

I can't tell what's better/worse, having a BEV truck that has a busted infrastructure...

or... having a world-class charging infrastructure but no BEV truck.

 

[Feathermerchan]

Your second point will be solved before the first.

 

[holeydonut]

Your second point will be solved before the first.

When is Tesla going to open up their Superchargers to Fords?

 

[scottf200]

When is Tesla going to open up their Superchargers to Fords?

I would NOT hold my breath on that ... unless they were able to get a decent piece of the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law which has $7.5 billion for a national EV charging network.

Elon Musk tells Biden that Tesla is opening its Supercharger network, but how?

Elon Musk told Biden that Tesla is opening its Supercharger network, but the plan has been unclear since Tesla opened its charge connector.

electrek.co

It seemed like Tesla was going to offer CCS to Tesla adapters to non-Tesla EV owners or incorporate CCS adapters at its Supercharger stations.
The open-sourcing of its connector has now cast some doubts on those plans.
This weekend, President Biden tweeted about the US government’s plan to help build 500,000 charging stations:

We’re building 500,000 electric vehicle charging stations across the country. The great American road trip will be fully electrified.

Tesla CEO Elon Musk responded by saying “or you can just buy a Tesla”:

Or you can just buy a Tesla — Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 4, 2022

Musk seems to imply that Tesla’s Supercharger network already enables “the great American road trip,” which is a fair point considering that there are not many regions of the United States you can’t access with Tesla’s charging network.
Then the CEO added that Tesla still plans to “enable other EVs to use Tesla Superchargers”:

Worth mentioning that Tesla has open-sourced its charge connector and is enabling other EVs to use Tesla Superchargers

 

[MP3Mike]

I would NOT hold my breath on that ... unless they were able to get a decent piece of the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law which has $7.5 billion for a national EV charging network.

Even when/if they open the Superchargers, it will likely only be select sites that have extra capacity.

As far as the BIL funds, that is split up into 52 pieces, with each state/territory having their own rules on top of the Federal NEVI rules. Between that and the V2/V3 infrastructure not meeting the requirements, I doubt that Tesla will get much, if any, of the funding. (Tesla backing out of the ~$6M of California funding for charging sites re-enforces my opinion on that.)

 

[Feathermerchan]

When they do open it up, they will have a new profit center due to how terrible the other charging networks perform.
If you look up Tesla Magic dock you'll see how the hardware will work.

 

[Cal1]

Things look like they might be changing at Ford Went in to make deal on newly arrived Lariat, they...

Looks like it's the SR versions that they're starting to have trouble moving.

 

[T3SLAROD]

Things look like they might be changing at Ford Went in to make deal on newly arrived Lariat, they...

Looks like it's the SR versions that they're starting to have trouble moving.

Thats awesome. Ford is building them and shipping them out. The more inventory the better.

 

[OldPro]

The Ford F 1-50 Lighting looks interesting. I am curious to see how many will consider this instead of the Cybertruck.

The price of the Lighting also looks pretty good ("Standard-range model will start at $39,974, before any federal or state tax credits, while pricing for the mid-range model begins at $52,974.") especially with an EV rebate factored in. But, I imagine that is for a standard cab and crew cabs, which would be closer to the CyberTruck, would be considerably more.

Which will I grow oldest waiting for? Is ordering/reservation even open for the Ford F-150 Lightening? And if I bought one will I get Tesla style servicing or will it be the same old circus of a traditional dealer service center?

 

[aerodyne]

One less potential buyer after this news:

Ford halts production and shipments of its electric F-150 Lightning due to potential battery issue

The production halt adds to ongoing "execution issues" detailed to investors earlier this month by Ford CEO Jim Farley.

www.cnbc.com

 

[T3SLAROD]

One less potential buyer after this news:

Ford halts production and shipments of its electric F-150 Lightning due to potential battery issue

The production halt adds to ongoing "execution issues" detailed to investors earlier this month by Ford CEO Jim Farley.

www.cnbc.com

This is Ford taking initiative and taking care of a quality issue before it reaches owners. Unlike other brands who deny issues and give you the run around. To my knowledge there have been 0 Lightning fires….

 

[RSpanner]

Ford also stopped producing the Maverick Hybrid pickup and won't be opening up sales until September, or so they say.

 

[holeydonut]

Your second point will be solved before the first.

End of 2024 is magic for either getting a CT or charging a F150 at a Tesla public charger.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/15/business/energy-environment/tesla-electric-vehicle-chargers-biden.html

 

[MP3Mike]

To my knowledge there have been 0 Lightning fires….

You had to say that. The stoppage is due to a battery fire.

Ford Says Battery Fire Behind Lightning Production Pause

The company said the battery issue shouldn’t affect electric trucks previously shipped to customers.

www.wsj.com

It sounds like production is expected to be down for about a month.

I wonder if it will result in a recall.

 

[YNoVA]

And this is why Tesla is still the best at EVs. They have battery architecture refined. There hasn't been an incident that I'm aware of of a Tesla randomly catching fire.

The Lightning may have some better features than the Cybetruck but the Cybertruck will be the more refined EV.

 

[T3SLAROD]

You had to say that. The stoppage is due to a battery fire.

Ford Says Battery Fire Behind Lightning Production Pause

The company said the battery issue shouldn’t affect electric trucks previously shipped to customers.

www.wsj.com

It sounds like production is expected to be down for about a month.

I wonder if it will result in a recall.

Again, 0 Lightning Fires. This was caught at the Factory and they are doing what needs to be done. The story is that this affected a small amount of manufactured trucks, or a batch. We will see how this plays out.

 

[T3SLAROD]

And this is why Tesla is still the best at EVs. They have battery architecture refined. There hasn't been an incident that I'm aware of of a Tesla randomly catching fire.

The Lightning may have some better features than the Cybetruck but the Cybertruck will be the more refined EV.

Really?

Tesla car battery 'spontaneously' catches fire on California freeway, requiring 6,000 gallons of water to put it out

No injuries were reported. Tesla CEO Elon Musk has previously stated only 0.01% of Teslas have ever caught fire.

www.nbcnews.com

And there are others

 

[YNoVA]

Really?

Tesla car battery 'spontaneously' catches fire on California freeway, requiring 6,000 gallons of water to put it out

No injuries were reported. Tesla CEO Elon Musk has previously stated only 0.01% of Teslas have ever caught fire.

www.nbcnews.com

And there are others

Wasn't this investigated and the cause found to be due to something the driver ran over earlier?