Yep, the infamous project scope creep is alive and well with FSD. Elon continues to push his internal switch to intellectual dishonesty mode.
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HW4 & HW5 Discussion
There will be benefits to retraining. I recall HW4 had higher res cameras, significantly faster processing, and if I'm not mistaken 10 bit NN. Although it won't fix stupid.
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Knightshade
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Not really sure why it's "big news"
Adding a second supplier for a supply chain thing you think you'll need a lot of is a reasonable business move, not some brilliant 4D chess idea nobody ever thought of before.
Adding a second supplier for a supply chain thing you think you'll need a lot of is a reasonable business move, not some brilliant 4D chess idea nobody ever thought of before.
dietereater
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HW4 is a downgrade, using more processing power. Might as well just use a Xeon simulation predicting the road ahead.
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Downgrade to HW3? Do you just mean that the driving experience on HW4 currently isn’t as good as HW3 because the software is still in development? That is frequently the case with Tesla. HW2 wasn’t as good as HW1 initially.
And every next revision takes more power. When Tesla releases a HWx+1 that uses less power than HWx, you’ll know their software is complete. It’s going to be a while.
I assume you’re kidding about that. Anyone done the math on an appropriate GPU benchmark running on a new CPU, coat aside?
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dietereater
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It's a fine balance, if Ai one day should become aware it will making human errors just like it's creators. Heat is collision and should be included in a benchmark when measuring the ceiling. NVIDIA and the likes have mislead a lot of their benchmarks for financial gain. DVR once ran 4 cameras faster than a half decent gaming PC trying to run a webcam. Like I mentioned it's a fine balance try to master stability. Under clocking would be the only solution for EV. Now let begin the maths and check the results as we try figure out how bees prevent collisions flying in a swam.
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The 4nm TSMC process (Factory) in Az is on hold. Hope that wasn't supposed to source Tesla. The stated reason is shortage of labor. (Once again, I'm reminded of how difficult it is to manufacture in USA.)
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I get this funny feeling that AI will turn into a war with chips at the center, used for leverage or constraint on the competition. Although I'm glad Tesla didn't try to build their own Fabs, and glad to see multiple sources (Samsung/TSMC), it is still a risk factor none the less. It also makes me question the real reason for the TSMC delays. (Yes, some was safety related, skills, pay differences..) but this was all known before they entered our Desert State.
I smell something fishy here. But at least there's plenty of sand here for everyone to play!
Your next MacBook could be in short supply thanks to US skills shortage
TSMC is struggling to find enough qualified US workers to get its new Arizona chipmaking plant operational on schedule, forcing it to push back its opening into 2025.
I get this funny feeling that AI will turn into a war with chips at the center, used for leverage or constraint on the competition. Although I'm glad Tesla didn't try to build their own Fabs, and glad to see multiple sources (Samsung/TSMC), it is still a risk factor none the less. It also makes me question the real reason for the TSMC delays. (Yes, some was safety related, skills, pay differences..) but this was all known before they entered our Desert State.
I smell something fishy here. But at least there's plenty of sand here for everyone to play!
willow_hiller
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Just came here to post this myself. Personally, I have trouble interpreting that small dot in the wrap as a camera. I don't know if it makes sense for the Model 3 refresh to get a new camera on the move to HW4 while the HW4 Model Y misses out.
navguy12
Active Member
Even if true, what happens then it gets covered in salt spray after five minutes of driving on winter roads?
It would be a parking camera before all else and every car has that potential issue outside of Tesla.
navguy12
Active Member
Understood, but the question stands: if there was a camera for any purpose on the front bumper, what happens after it gets covered in salt spray?
You clean it...same with your current reverse camera or the front parking camera on almost every single car outside of Tesla.
navguy12
Active Member
I’ve driven five winters, so far, with the current hardware on my May 2018 build TM3.
The rear camera does get effected, but it is not a critical path item when (even simple) TACC is used.
When the forward radar was still being employed, any coating of any freezing precipitation cancelled all cruise control operations in this car.
Salt spray on (for example) HWY 7 between Peterborough ON and Ottawa ON will coat the front end of the car in a matter of minutes.
And it does so in such a manner that if the auto wipers don’t keep up with it and then they do a sweep, the resulting streaking cancels all TACC (ADAS) systems until it is rectified (with many uses of the washer fluid button).
Your “you clean it” and “every other car” answer doesn’t change the issue: the ADAS systems in these cars don’t work when covered in salt spray.
If every other car on the road in eastern Ontario between mid December and mid March suffers a loss of simple cruise control operability because of salt spray on a front bumper camera, I would have expected to hear something about it by now.
it will still use the front windshield camera that has wipers.
I think you are overthinking this.
navguy12
Active Member
Okay, so the bumper camera would be a second source of visual data, but the ADAS would still function if that bumper camera were to become obstructed. Thanks. Cheers.
That's IF the car even has a bumper camera. We know the CT does, but it maintained the same position and same camera suite as other Teslas as well.
Knightshade
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In other news- people keep being surprised higher resolution cameras produce better images.
None of which tells us what resolution is sufficient for actual self driving of course.
None of which tells us what resolution is sufficient for actual self driving of course.
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