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FSD Beta 12.3 (2023.44.30.25) dropped this morning and my '22 MYP was a lucky boy.
Holy moly it is a game changer
1. Smooth turns - werky-jerky steering wheel is GONE (well at least 90% of that gone :)
2. Human feel on the highway - it changes lanes for the right reasons, keeping up with other...
I use the basic TACC (commonly called adaptive cruise control) very frequently when my itinerary goes thru lot of long sections of straight roads(.
When it comes to an intersection with car(s) already stopped there, the M3 RWD does not start slowing down until it is about 5 car length from the...
2022 MY AWD Long Range...Main Software v11.1(2023.44.30.7 d7cddcb830ed)...FSD v11.4.9...NavData NA-2023.44-14828-cdad87580d...up to date as of Jan 5 10:06a
This last update is scary (maybe dangerous). In the Last few days I have noticed 3 "issues" Please Explain.
1. Likes to go into Bike Lanes...
autopilot slow to decelerate
chill mode is not chill
fix fsd extreme late deceleration
fsd blocking unmarked right turn lanes
fsdhardandlatebrakingfsdlate deceleration
fsd swerving in large right lanes
fsd tailgating in chill mode
fsd tailgating in city streets
fsd wrongly swerving into parking lanes
I own a '23 MYLR which I've had since Feb, no FSD. My wife just bought a '23 M3P that came with FSD for 3 months which just ended. I've run FSD in a combination of highway, suburban, and rural environments. Two things are very clear to me after three months. First, it's performance ranges...
autopilot chill is not chill
chill mode is not chill
fix fsd extreme late deceleration
fsdhardandlatebrakingfsd jerky driving
fsd swerving in large right lanes
fsd tailgating in city streets
fsd unnecessary/bad lane changes
fsd wrongly swerving into turn lanes
phantom braking
I had phantom breaking events over several years, but recently, in both Model 3 FSD and Model Y AP, I saw almost no phantom breaking at all.
And now I see this video from Patrick, the Ford Mach-E enthusiast.
When I pointed out that what they see is not phantom breaking, I'v got this from...
Hi has anyone been having issues with the cruise control side of autopilot now and again breaking really sharply all of a sudden when travelling down a motorway and about to over take another vehicle, like it suddenly acts like your about to drive into the back of a car that's clearly in the...
Very likely that there will be a major update soon. When?
Either:
Thanksgiving weekend (23rd Nov)
CT event (30th Nov)
Christmas (24th Dec)
What will it contain?
Grok (20% likelihood?)
V12 FSD (20% likelihood) ASS included?
Emergency Starlink comms (20% likelihood)
Games
X app?
?
autopilot chill is not chill
chill mode is not chill
fsdhardandlatebrakingfsdlate deceleration
fsd swerving in large right lanes
fsd tailgating in chill mode
fsd tailgating in city streets
fsd wrongly swerving into turn lanes
I've been testing FSD since Jan 2022. The software improved from Jan 2022 to approx Nov 2022. Since then, it's been one disaster after another, often the newer release fixed a problem created by the prior release. The latest is no exception. Here's a summary of the latest disasters...
Drove about 300 mi round trip yesterday to get to where the eclipse was a full ring. First trip in 2023 Model Y with 2023.32.6 software, basic autopilot only. Some really bad regressions I have observed in this update:
- It missed something like 40% of speed limit signs. And I drive in a place...
I drive the same route most days, and have been accostumed to having to disengage autopilot when i near a certain roundabout because it does not slow down on autopilot
In fact i dont ever recall it ever slowing down for a roundabout in the past. (6 months of ownership)
Now it seems it is...
First, I am sorry about the clickbait title. I am a proud owner of a new model X (decided to take advantage of FSD transfer option). To give you some background - I've been an FSD beta tester since it was available (after a strenuous couple of weeks and a 99 safety score) for couple of years...
autopilot chill is not chill
fsdhardandlatebrakingfsdlate deceleration
fsd not smooth in stop in go traffic
fsd swerving in large right lanes
fsd tailgating in city streets
fsd unnecessary/bad lane changes
fsd wrongly swerving into turn lanes
phantom braking
This guy states it's been happening for 2 years.
He demonstrates it on 2 versions.
There are plenty of other examples
What doe this say about 'FSD' & robotaxi potential?
I’m about 2000 miles into my first significant road trip in my new 2023 Model S with HW4, delivered May 1. I drove from FL to New England, currently in RI. I purchased the car with EAP but subscribed to FSD before the trip so I could use FSD Beta when I wanted to. I’m on build 2023.32.4 (FSD...
autopilot chill is not chill
fsd blocking unmarked right turn lanes
fsdhardandlatebrakingfsd jerky driving
fsdlate deceleration
fsd not smooth in stop in go traffic
fsd unnecessary/bad lane changes
fsd wrongly swerving into turn lanes
Trying to gain more confidence using FSD on a 45mph road, one lane in each direction. My question is, do you feel confident that after the car goes forward it will stop? I would apply the brakes or remove my foot from the accelerator before FSD stops the car. It seems nerve wracking. Just...
I own FSD. My opinion is FSD drives like an erratic teenager first time driver. Sometimes it's so slow it annoys you. Other times it leaves so little distance it scares you. It's jerky and not smooth. It automatically does lane changes on its own which I'd rather leave off and initiate myself...
autopilot chill is not chill
chill mode is not chill
fix fsd extreme late deceleration
fsd blocking unmarked right turn lanes
fsdhardandlatebrakingfsdlate deceleration
fsd swerving in large right lanes
fsd tailgating in city streets
fsd wrongly swerving into turn lanes
phantom braking
My Model 3 was delivered in mid-August 2018. While I originally just had Enhanced Autopilot (EAP), I quickly paid the extra $2000 to get FSD as rumors swirled about Tesla charging more in the future. What's my opinion after 5 years of testing and playing with Tesla EAP and FSD? TLDR: It's pretty...
autopilot chill is not chill
fix fsd extreme late deceleration
fsdhardandlatebrakingfsd jerky driving
fsd not smooth in stop in go traffic
fsd swerving in large right lanes
fsd tailgating in city streets
fsd wrongly swerving into parking lanes
fsd wrongly swerving into turn lanes
phantom braking
Here's the issue I observed 2 times over past 24 hours. Notably, this happened at the intersections that weren't previously seen as problematic.
When making an unprotected left or right turn, FSD waits, commits to the turn and proceeds but then violently jerks steering wheel left/right and then...
I have got to be honest. Full Self Drive capability in Tesla goes further than any other vehicle designed by man (or woman) but it left me wanting for more.
I bought my Model Y Long Range on Friday 9/1 and took it for a little ride from Houston to Corpus Christi on Sunday 9/3. Here are my first...
autopilot chill is not chill
fsd blocking unmarked right turn lanes
fsdhardandlatebrakingfsdlate deceleration
fsd swerving in large right lanes
fsd wrongly swerving into turn lanes
phantom braking
TLDR Summary: The FSD Beta Stack (11.4.4) on the highway is much smoother and more comfortable than the current production Navigate on Autopilot. (2023.26.11). Self driving on local roads is legitimately for beta testing and feedback, and not comfortable at intersections. NHTSA is doing a...
Running FSD 11.4.4. I'm in lane #2 of two lanes turning left at a light. The intersection is not square, more of a 120 degree turn to the right.
FSD stops for the light as expected. The opposing northbound traffic left turn signal turns green. FSD decides to proceed into opposing traffic...
I’m into my 7th year of my 2nd Tesla, this one being a 3P. It’s 3 years old.
In this 7 year period in my opinion autopilot has gone from good to bad. It’s getting worse and worse as time goes by. For me, my car took a massive step backwards when Musk announced cars would navigate using vision...
Hi everyone, I'm new to this forum and am hoping to be able to learn more about my Model Y and - in particular - some tips of optimal configuration of the software. Given I'm in Australia (Sydney), my experiences might be a little different from others, but I'd appreciate any thoughts people...
auto park
auto wipers are terrible
autopiliot
cabin heater coming on when only cooling desired
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Today the car stopped waiting for a left hand turn (due to oncoming traffic) on a two lane rural road. When it made the turn and was on the road being turned into, it suddenly made a violent zig zagging movement and seemed to come to a stop about 3 feet into the opposing lane, having crossed...
I was driving today on a slight dow hill, 2 lane divided highway, i was on the inner fast lane.. 55mph
A short 3rd lane appears on my left, for a left turn only through the highway divider
Without warning, car enters the left turn lane for no reason then slams on brake as road disappears in...
About a month into ownership here. On the last few trips with AP; going home during rush hour in the HOV lane with a wall of cars to the right while cruising at 75mph the car will randomly drop into the 50s. I can’t figure out why but it brakes pretty hard. I’m sure the pile of cars behind me...
Just took a trip from Texas to Arizona on I-10 in my 2020 LR M3. From West TX to middle of AZ had about 15 instances of phantom braking. HARD braking - from 80 mph to 25 mph in seconds. Thankfully no traffic behind me or they could have easily hit me from the drastic slowdown. Had previously had...
#fixphantombraking
autopilot chill is not chill
chill mode is not chill
fix fsd extreme late deceleration
fsd blocking unmarked right turn lanes
fsdhardandlatebrakingfsdlate deceleration
fsd tailgating in chill mode
fsd tailgating in city streets
phantom braking
Testing FSD beta 11.4.2 today on a short torture course that caused problems for earlier versions. This drive was done in Chill mode. At 5:49, it barely made the transition into a left turn lane to enter an onramp to I-5, which earlier versions could not do. It had to make a hard braking...
I've been in the FSD Beta program since summer of last year, and while I've seen updates with significant improvements, so far my limited experience with 11.4.2 has shown more improvements than I've seen in any prior release.
(As always, YMMV).
We've all developed a feel for what FSD Beta can...
autopilot chill is not chill
fsdhardandlatebrakingfsd jerky driving
fsdlate deceleration
fsd swerving in large right lanes
fsd tailgating in city streets
fsd unnecessary/bad lane changes
fsd wrongly swerving into parking lanes
fsd wrongly swerving into turn lanes
I have a 2018 model S, purchased TSLA insurance 10 days ago, and reside in a North Texas metro. I am enrolled in Tesla insurance with Safety Score 2.0, with a current score of 92, and a zero accident history.
All of this context because I believe the safety score calibration is wrong, as I...
#fixphantombraking
autopilot chill is not chill
elon is an ass
fix fsd extreme late deceleration
fsd does not commit to go
fsd does not maintain proper speed
fsdhardandlatebrakingfsd jerky driving
fsdlate deceleration
fsd stops too early too quickly
fsd stops too far behind line
fsd tailgating in city streets
So I bought my Long Range, 7-seat Y with the enhanced autopilot feature. My brother-in-law has FSD and enjoys the updates, but I just couldn't justify $15,000 for it, so I settled on enhanced autopilot. Some quirks:
Unlike the human driver, who is likely to step on the brake (or ease off of...
I've had 2022.44.11 for three days now, and for the first time since receiving it, I did a 45-minute drive after dark. (It actually began at late dusk, and by the end it was completely dark.) This drive was mostly on the highway, and phantom braking was awful. I experienced it probably about a...
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autopilot chill is not chill
fix fsd extreme late deceleration
fsd blocking unmarked right turn lanes
fsdhardandlatebrakingfsd jerky driving
fsdlate deceleration
fsd tailgating in chill mode
fsd tailgating in city streets
fsd unnecessary/bad lane changes
phantom braking
FSD Beta 10.69 mishandles intersections often. It moves out a little then hesitates and eventually gets through ok. Sometimes it does a great job and not just by following the car ahead. Other times it seems to get overwhelmed by complex movements of multiple objects like pedestrians walking...
After years of waiting I finally got my FSD Beta! After 6-weeks I turned it off.
I found the promise of the FSD Beta to be overblown. Yes it is very cool that the car will navigate on city streets to a destination. But the car is far too timid to be usable. It is worse than driving with a...
I’ve found that FSD Beta (under 2022.44.30.5) cannot negotiate a particular intersection geometry shown below. The vehicle just stops before the intersection and will not proceed.
Here’s the setup: the vehicle is in blue with the direction of motion shown by a black arrow. The planned path...
My M3 is still on 2022.20.X - I stopped updating ~4 months ago when they turned off the radar in favour of Tesla Vision.
Everyone on here and the subreddit was saying how phantom braking is worse, which I didn't really like, but the real dealbreaker for me was requiring the auto high beams...
I've been in the beta program since 10.2 and - while there have certainly been regressions - FSDb has gone from being erratic and scary to quite predictable, almost boring! Zero intervention trips are now common, and even my long daily commute only has a couple of them, usually at predictable...
fsdhardandlatebrakingfsdlate deceleration
fsd swerving in large right lanes
fsd tailgating in city streets
fsd wrongly swerving into turn lanes
phantom braking
Hi guys,
Just wanted to share an experience that I've had today so that others looking at Teslas to use for long distance driving can make an informed decision.
My wife and I drove our 2023 MYLR from Tucson to Las Vegas. It's a ~7 hour drive (8.5 with charging stops, ~400 miles) mostly...
https://www.ktvu.com/news/multi-car-crashes-disrupt-thanksgiving-day-travel-on-bay-bridges
I'm not trolling but ran across this. I wonder if it could be related to a phantom braking incident. Was hoping maybe locals had additional insight.
I'm currently driving across Canada in light winter conditions and have had to fight with cruise control a lot more than I'd like.
When you activate cruise control you are also engaging Autopilot even if you don't have the Full Self Driving package. And because Autopilot depends on the car's...
adaptive cruise control
ap
Autopilot
cruise control
fsdhardandlatebrakingfsd tailgating in chill mode
phantom braking
tacc
traffic aware cruise control
winter driving
wipers
Because of it's utter stupidity I've decided to rename my Y: Nervous Nelly.
The next step will be to sell it.
In cruse control (aka: whatever they call it) it drives like a stupid child with bad eyesight. I can't even count the number of times it's braked for no reason. It is only a...
This weekend was the first road-trip since May and oh boy is TACC vision only different than the older radar enabled versions for my 2019 Model 3.
We were driving back from Llano Texas after a fun weekend in Fredericksburg and the roads from Llano to Fort Worth are primarily small country roads...
fix fsd extreme late deceleration
fsd blocking unmarked right turn lanes
fsdhardandlatebrakingfsdlate deceleration
fsd tailgating in city streets
phantom braking
Near my house is a spot on a 45 MPH highway where 10.69.2.2 always puts on the brakes, hard. It almost comes to a stop before picking up speed again. I've reported it multiple times.
Today there was a car behind me for the first time.
When I reached the phantom braking spot, instead of...
I have been using both AP and NOAP (Navigate on Autopilot) since I picked up my Model S. I Find that there are only two modes it seems to drive in, aggressive driver or giddy teenager driving on highway for the first time.
It says a lot about the developers who are working on this algorithm...
autopilot chill is not chill
fsdhardandlatebrakingfsd jerky driving
fsdlate deceleration
fsd not smooth in stop in go traffic
fsd swerving in large right lanes
fsd wrongly swerving into turn lanes
I have simple needs. Just want plain old Autopilot to take some burden off me in stop and go traffic. Used to be ok. Now - I’m embarrassed to drive with it with others and too frustrated to use it alone. Jerks way too hard when braking and super inconsistent acceleration.
Haven’t read too much...
When driving along the motorway, I get a few phantom braking incidents for each hour of driving (roughly and on average). I totally understand this happens to everyone so I'm not alone but a few questions.
What's the best way to deal with this in terms of reporting? I sometimes disengage AP...