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Looking to cancel order due to removal of USS
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thesmokingman
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We went ahead and bought ours a month ago but have to agree, I don't see how it can work. The front camera can't even see the bumper area can it?
ikarusk
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Cancel while you can. Everyday its a frustration not having them. I wish I cancelled my order. This car is a mass production money maker, but it fails to deliver stuff that you had on your cars for more than a decade. USS and automatic wipers being the worst. Just cancel you will regret if you don't.
Tha_Ape
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I switched my order to "existing inventory" when I found out my car wasn't going to come with radar back in 2021. It took them about a year or so to figure Vision Only out (and it still never reached parity with radar). It was good enough to turn off my radar though. I can't say I'm super happy about it, but at least I didn't get a car missing features for a bit.
I totally understand why people feel that way. Tesla shouldn't do this stuff until they figure out how to make the replacement work. The thing is, their cars are in such high demand they can get away with doing it though that's slowly changing.
It played a role in me deciding not to get an M3P (yet). It's not off the table, but my particular setup in my garage makes me use USS for my 2nd car. My MY just bumps against a tennis ball
I totally understand why people feel that way. Tesla shouldn't do this stuff until they figure out how to make the replacement work. The thing is, their cars are in such high demand they can get away with doing it though that's slowly changing.
It played a role in me deciding not to get an M3P (yet). It's not off the table, but my particular setup in my garage makes me use USS for my 2nd car. My MY just bumps against a tennis ball
Yet to be seen how well it works. Cameras can guesstimate distance for things they've seen, but cannot know distances to things below their vision level, which is a huge area in front of the car.
Tha_Ape
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I don't think that's a wide release yet. Only people on FSD Beta get to try it out.
2022.44 is basically the Christmas update. The normies on the 2023.x.x path don't have it yet. It's a sign it's coming though
2022.44 is basically the Christmas update. The normies on the 2023.x.x path don't have it yet. It's a sign it's coming though
LBM4
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I've been driving since the early 80's. My first car had a choke and an 8 track am/fm radio. Since then, I have owned just about every kind of car, motorcycle and truck there is. Would I like USS? Sure. But I grew up without any kind of electronic assistance in my cars, so it doesn't bother me and I can get along without them.
If USS is the defining factor of whether or not you buy a car, then the Tesla is not for you. I'm sure in this market, you could sell yours for a tidy profit. No?
LBM4
Tesla Fealty
It'll be interesting to see the implementation of it on all Tesla vehicles. Any video's out, showing how it works?
While I agree all us older drivers did great by turning our heads to make sure it's safe to proceed, I do appreciate the extra cameras and sensors because they don't build cars like they used to.
Our 2021 Y is parked in the garage next to old Betsy, a 2006 Lexus ES 330. Cars from Betsy's era, and the early 1990s, were designed with a very open greenhouse. Big windows and thin pillars made it easy to see around you.
In the interest of safety, vehicle design evolved and car doors were made thicker and taller for more crash protection. Correspondiny, windows became shorter, pillars got thicker, front and rear windshields became steeper for better aerodynamics. Cars are much safer today in a crash than decades ago but today's vehicles almost require cameras and proximity sensors because you can't see your surroundings as well with the reduction in glass and dark factory tint.
Physicslawyer
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If Tesla has a vision update for park assist, will they disable the USS on your car if it has it?
GreenCoffee
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Or maybe Tesla should've sorted out the vision assist before removing the USS....
Would they have released the car at all without USS from the beginning? No...so your statement about Tesla not being the car for them is ridiculous....
I agree, they should have. But I also think that those that canceled their orders simply because of the lack of USS (and how often do you really need them?) are short-sighted and missing out on a lot.
LBM4
Tesla Fealty
As of today, USS is not being disabled, because the only people getting the Vision update are Model 3 and Y owners, on FSD Beta and WITHOUT USS on their cars.
LBM4
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Would they have released their cars without USS from the beginning? Who knows? My last name is not Musk and I'm not a senior engineer at Tesla. But, I'd hazard to guess you aren't either. So, I'll raise you a 'ridiculous'.
Don't need to be either...Would any car today at 60k be released without USS? The answer is no....And hey, they included it originally because they knew they needed it...Boom.
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