I’m largely of the same mind. I’ve long been politically closer aligned to what I consider conservative values and initially registered as Republican. I’ve changed that in recent years and pretty consistently vote for Democrats on the national level, as the Republican Party has seemingly lost its mind. I now tend to skew towards the Libertarian party, but with little hope of them becoming a viable party(even outside the normal roadblocks for 3rd parties to rise, they need to deal with some of their own internal issues, particularly in terms of needing ideological purity).
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I’m largely of the same mind. I’ve long been politically closer aligned to what I consider conservative values and initially registered as Republican. I’ve changed that in recent years and pretty consistently vote for Democrats on the national level, as the Republican Party has seemingly lost its mind. I now tend to skew towards the Libertarian party, but with little hope of them becoming a viable party(even outside the normal roadblocks for 3rd parties to rise, they need to deal with some of their own internal issues, particularly in terms of needing ideological purity).
One of the biggest problems with 3rd parties is they tend to be ideologically extreme and an in depth examination of their ideas in the real world tends to show their ideas are unworkable. The Republican Party has become this way too.
The Democrats have their ideals too but are the only party left in the US trying to live in reality.
The Democrats have their ideals too but are the only party left in the US trying to live in reality.
lolachampcar
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Just remember, Congress as a whole had a sub 10% approval rating prior to Trump. Its nice and cathartic to have a boogyman to blame everything on but useless for actually solving the problem.
I've had a lot of skepticism about male inadequacy for a long time even though my cocktail party gambit never registered except for women in the crowd. I used to say, "Freud got it wrong, men suffer from clitoral envy."
The problem of low male self-image is even worse than I thought.
Scientists create mice - CNN
The problem of low male self-image is even worse than I thought.
Scientists create mice - CNN
Off Shore
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One of the greatest advantages of being a old men is that we only have to adapt to these changes for a short while ;-)
Considering how many male cross-dressers I've known, you may have a point.
Joseph Campbell was a renown expert on mythology and I would claim the Psychology from those myths. He was a college professor, wrote a number of books, but it probably best known for the series he did with Bill Moyers just before his death, The Power Of Myth.
He talked about how children become adults and made the point that biology turns girls into women. They suddenly wake up one day with proof they can produce the next generation. For boys, the road to becoming an adult is less defined. He made the point that this is why most cultures developed rituals that were rites of passage for boys. He pointed out for boys of his generation, it was having to go into the military and fight a war (in his case WW II).
Without something forcing boys to grow up they end up perpetual children. Contrast the last two residents of the White House. Whatever you think of their politics, one is definitely an adult, and the other is a perpetual child.
As for making mice with two female parents, genetically it is more stable. In the human genome the Y chromosome is the least stable. All other chromosomes are paired, one from each parent, so if a chromosome gets damaged, the body can repair by taking the corresponding genes from the paired chromosome, but the Y chromosome is a unicorn. It isn't paired with anything, so if it gets damaged, it can't repair.
In DNA testing the chromosome that changes the fastest is the Y chromosome and the one that changes the slowest is the mitochondrial DNA which only comes from the mother's line.
I have seen speculation that male humans are going extinct because of the rate that the Y chromosome changes, but that doesn't make complete sense to me. It would be the case for any animal with Y chromosomes, including fish, birds, as well as other mammals. And even some of the more advanced mammals have been around for millions of years. Much longer than homo sapien sapiens.
I've been meaning to ask my friend who is a biologist/geneticist (though her thing is plant genetics), but I only see her once a year and forgot the last time I saw her.
Because of that Y variability does that mean men are the source of genetic mutation? Lionel Tiger and Robin Fox argue in The Imperial Animal, we males are very good at killing.
Mutation of the Y chromosome doesn't mean mutation of anything else. Humans are probably the most efficient predators the Earth has ever known.
Wooloomooloo
Member
Looking ahead, what do people think the US mid-term Elections will do to the market as a whole (if anything) and to TSLA specifically. Earnings are around the same time.
Likely outcomes (in order of probability highest to lowest)
- Democrats take the House, don't take the Senate
- Democrats take the House and Senate
- Republicans hold the House and Senate
Likely outcomes (in order of probability highest to lowest)
- Democrats take the House, don't take the Senate
- Democrats take the House and Senate
- Republicans hold the House and Senate
ebyard
Member
Any Democrat gain is a good thing from an environmental perspective and that plays well for TSLA. If the brakes can be put on any attempt to remove federal tax credits for EVs you have to say that's a positive.
Those of us over the other side of the pond are watching and praying that Dems can make big inroads, and eventually bring the US back together. That Reps and Dems never seem to work together for the good of the country is a shame.
Sadly we seem to be taking the same route.
Those of us over the other side of the pond are watching and praying that Dems can make big inroads, and eventually bring the US back together. That Reps and Dems never seem to work together for the good of the country is a shame.
Sadly we seem to be taking the same route.
jhm
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I think the key issue for Tesla is whether Democratic gains in Congress can be sufficient to curb the damage that Trump is doing to trade relations. In particular, the trade war with China is materially adverse to Tesla.
In my view, whether we have an extension of EV tax credits is quite nearly immaterial to Tesla's performance.
X Fan
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I don’t agree. Trump is acting like any other leader in the world whose primary interest is to protect jobs/industries for their home country. He’s not wrong to renegotiate treaties.
You think Merkel/Xi/Macron/Abe doesn’t do same?
That said... don't be so sure that the loss of the tax credits is a bad thing. Remember that they're about to start working against Tesla, as Tesla's credits will decline but its competitors credits will remain the same. The credit design has also been flawed from the beginning - not just the per-manufacturer phaseout design, but the fact that buyers have to have $7500 in tax liability to make full use of it, and they don't get the money immediately.
I'd say that the options are, from best to worst:
1) Reform / renewal of EV incentives
2) Total repeal of EV incentives (potential side effect: increasing the odds of #1 in the future)
3) No change to the current incentives.
I'd also say that even more valuable to Tesla would be a new government loan program. If they could get high-dollar loans at low interest rates, that would be the bees knees.
Also valuable would be large utility contracts, with favourable prepayment terms that would allow them to fund scaling up battery production in order to meet the contracts' needs.
jhm
Well-Known Member
I am not going to get pulled into a political debate here. This is not the place. Please restrain your comments to focus on what is material to Tesla shareholders.
X Fan
Active Member
1. Down slightly
2. Down substantially
3. Natural market ups and downs. We’re due for a correction btw.
MikeQ
Member
I think the repatriation of overseas earnings was good for Tesla and many other companies. We are either going to have an economic war with China or a real one. They steal everything and violate almost every agreement made. It's in Tesla's interest to crack down on China's behavior BEFORE they build a factory in their country.
Are they also called Republicans and Democrats and the Eu is Trump?
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.
As a German citizen I can confirm that our Chancellor Merkel does not renegotiate treaties in order to protect jobs/industries in our home country.
With regards to auto production and sales I believe that stable and free markets benefit everybody including jobs and industries.
IMHO The current trade negotiations are a loose - loose situation for all parties. Without starting a politic discussion here I tried but do not understand your assumption that its good to renegotiate treaties. I believe the US does suffer the most from the development.
I did reply to your post because it has an impact on Tesla too but with all respect do not understand the reasoning that renegotiating treaties is not wrong.
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