Why would NHTSA leave Tesla alone as it rolls out a cutting edge, beta product like city streets/FSD? Now, if you think NHSTA should be sunsetted, that would be another matter.
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Wiki MASTER THREAD: Actual FSD Beta downloads and experiences
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Safety regulator wants info on Tesla’s FSD beta program, “safety score”
It’s also pushing Tesla about a recent fix to Autopilot
www.theverge.com
Much of that article is about why the September fix, concerning parked emergency vehicles, wasn't handled as a formal recall, but the below caught my eye as "over-reachy" concerning 10.2:
I can see this already, NHTSA gets involved and then we’ll never get the $10k worth of try out beta features.
powertoold
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Nope, fsd beta is vision-only. Once you install and activate 32.25, your car becomes vision only, in city and highway.
I think it's been confirmed that you can't turn off fsd beta to get radar back. It's lost forever!
No, those are two entirely separate topics.
The NHTSA was concerned about consumers not being able to talk freely about the FSD Beta. But, nothing in the NDA prevented them from talking to regulatory bodies.
For the Recall it was more about what constitutes a recall. For some reason the NHTSA keeps harping on about the lack of emergency vehicle detection without seeming to understand that a lot of L2 systems don't detect emergency vehicles. In any case the NHTSA is really concerned about stealth recalls where something is fixed in SW without really telling anyone that there was a recall/fix. It's not even a true fix as it only works at night.
Tesla is under pressure from NHTSA over Full Self-Driving Beta NDA and 'stealth recall'
I highly doubt Tesla is doing any PR related to this. The only one very busy on this issue is you.
Another person, that likely isn't a EAP member, or signed a NDA, is Ross Gerber, and he has posted a short video:
Of course, he is a big investment fund manager and very vocally supports Tesla, his ETF, investments, and investment services...
@Ramphex Yeah, please do! All he is doing (aside from racking up depreciation miles on his car) is collecting data for Tesla’s sole use. And for this opportunity, all he had to do was pay $10k for the FSD package, or $299/mo for the FSD rental, and, of course, he had to press that “button”! Poor, SoB!
There is absolutely no way the NHTSA will leave Tesla alone.
One part is people keep finding creative ways to die while in a Tesla. It's kinda ironic that all the talk about the Safety Score, and yet it was just weeks after Plaid version of a Model S went airborne with a couple of fatalities. It was driver error, but the car is ridiculously fast.
The other part is FSD Beta is absolutely bunkers. So much so that we have no idea if its going to survive regulatory crackdown. It's absolutely important to the path Tesla has chosen towards autonomy, but regulatory bodies are going to be watching it like a hawk. There is no way it would fly in Europe, and even Canada might be tough for Tesla to get approval from.
The one that went poof into the night after Elon questioned why it existed.
It doesn't exist in 10.2, but did for 10.1
Update: Service diagnosed that my B pillar and backup cameras did not successfully synch yesterday when I recalibrated even though calibration indicated it completed. So tomorrow during the day I'll go out for a calibration drive and start FSD all over. Service was great by the way.
Highlights of today's drive problem
Highlights of today's drive problem
- FSD would not exit off the highway. Tried 8 different exits that I have taken dozens of times before. As I approached each exit the navigation display counted down the tenths of a mile to the exit. Navigation voice also told me I would be exiting but every time the car drove right past the exit and then tried rerouting me. Of course that didn't work either so I had to take over and exit myself.
- Too many other problems to mention.
If that super short promotional video, with him driving in a straight line, isn’t a PR stunt, I don’t know what is! Did you even watch and listen to it? Gimme break!I highly doubt Tesla is doing any PR related to this. The only one very busy on this issue is you.
Another person, that likely isn't a EAP member, or signed a NDA, is Ross Gerber, and he has posted a short video:
Of course, he is a big investment fund manager and very vocally supports Tesla, his ETF, investments, and investment services...
The safety score is worth at least $1K of that $10K.@Ramphex Yeah, please do! All he is doing (aside from racking up depreciation miles on his car) is collecting data for Tesla’s sole use. And for this opportunity, all he had to do was pay $10k for the FSD package, or $299/mo for the FSD rental, and, of course, he had to press that “button”! Poor, SoB!
Ironic that nhtsa most likely found out about the NDA from Elon why he was questioning why it existed.
Well, number one is not related to fsd beta since that uses the previous stack so I would take the car back to service center.
Tesla isn’t doing them. But I promote Tesla all the time, and apparently this guy has a financial interest in promoting them.If that super short promotional video, with him driving in a straight line, isn’t a PR stunt, I don’t know what is! Did you even watch and listen to it? Gimme break!
If that super short promotional video, with him driving in a straight line, isn’t a PR stunt, I don’t know what is! Did you even watch and listen to it? Gimme break!
The video is too short to make anything of it except a person happy they have FSD Beta.
Lets wait to judge the guy.
I say that thinking he is an influencer, and he'll just be a total let down when it comes to being subjective.
Does it really matter? Around a thousand REAL people got FSD Beta so who cares?
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