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MASTER THREAD: FSD Subscription Available 16 Jul 2021
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Ignorant people who believe Elon's dreams of self driving profit machines were "near future" and part of AP (because he didnt say they weren't)
linux-works
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otoh, this car is like a very high tech item; laptop or trendy watch or tablet.
those have a tech lifetime of 2 years, give or take. some even degrade faster than that, or the competition makes your current model quite far behind.
battery life on teslas seems pretty good, overall; but I'm not so sure about the body and build, over time. not to mention that tesla, themselves, are their own worst enemy when it comes to hurting their own cars' resale values. model Y came out with no heated steering and now it has it. some models didn't used to have heatpumps and now they have it. some now have auto lift trunks. buying and holding a tesla seems like you already are 'behind' once a 3month period elapses and elon finds some new thing to change on the production line.
harnesses also are tied to the car (I've heard it said that 1/4 or MORE of the car's cost, is in terms of manual time to make a harness and if you need a 'harness change' you basically gut the whole car or just total it). if some new feature needs major harness updates, that's it - game over for that feature. if you want it, rebuy the car with a new model year config.
and so, I dont see this KIND of car to be a long term keeper. cars are now sort of designed to be disposable. I hate it and you do too, I'm sure; but its how its trending.
in the IT world, there's a bit of lore called "pets vs cattle". servers should be 'cattle'; while special one-off systems are 'pets'. I used to think of my car as pet-like; I would get attached to it, modify it, customize it, spend personal time doing installations (mostly audio). but now, it makes no sense for me to spend a lot of time and money on a specific *instance* of a car when I know it will be out of date (for things some of us care about) in no time flat. and so, my car is now a 'cattle car' (lol; should call it lionel, maybe?).
when the New Hotness(tm) is ready, even if some other vendor, I'll be free to leave the old behind and embrace the new.
$10k is a lot of weight and baggage. I want the freedom to drop this thing and go elsewhere should 'elsewhere' prove to be the better product and/or company.
KennyBry
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After watching various fsd beta videos and then seeing the fsd subscription offer last night I went all in for it not realizing fsd and fsd beta were two separate things. So I’m a bit let down today but I use autopilot all the time so I think I’ll be happy with the public fsd features for now. I haven’t had a phantom brake in months and the only AP issue I’m not happy with is the wild veer to the right at on-ramp merges — though I’m prepared for those now. But AP has saved my ass several times already and I’m more aware of my surroundings as I drive — so a big fan of the tech. here. To me, it feels like man + machine working in tandem for safety’s sake.
TBrownTX
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Same purchase, car, and initial thoughts, with one exception. The green light detection feature is the bomb and almost worth the $200 by itself.
Tim
electrifyme
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Let me verify. I used it this morning, it would come to stop signs, turn the wheel to make the right, then stop, then wait for me to hit the accelerator. Then it would come back up to speed and take back over until next stop sign. But let me re-verify all that. It was asking me to make inputs on the steering wheel frequently
You sound real confident there. Where did Tesla say they aren't going to include rear cross traffic alerts because you aren't supposed to park in forward? And does Tesla know some parking lots require forward parking even though it's statistically safer? I think you're making some stuff up now, aren't you?
Agree. Instant regret. Jerky ride and totally unsafe. Glad I didn’t have to spend 10k to figure that out. I hope they figure it out one day but for now it is just a waste of money.
Appeared on my Tesla app that subscription FSD is now available at $199 plus fees per month. I do very little highway driving so I'll most likely wait until it can drive me to work and home on city streets. Just wondering if anyone had gotten it yet? Is it the most recently updated FSD?
Sorry about the grammatical error in the title. Won't let me change it.
Sorry about the grammatical error in the title. Won't let me change it.
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You are still within cancellation window. Advice: Cancel now and re-order when useful features are available.
so if we just bought the new subscription it shouldnt allow any navigate on autopilot around cities or suburbs at all then?
It did after I went into Autopilot settings and enabled it. Other than lane change it is entirely useless. The summon feature almost took out a sign, thankful I had my finger on the app to stop it.
thats crazy. i attempted to play with summon in a full parking lot then changed my mind and went to an empty one. lol. did self park in a pretty full home depot lot next to two cars. it backed in and parked very crooked in the spot.
@EVNow of course if you included FSD in your 3 year lease that would only cost you ~$5k. (So it is cheaper to include FSD in your lease than it is to subscribe to FSD for the whole lease period.)
KBB private party seems to value FSD over std AP to the tune of about $1200 added value. Not much ROI for those that think it will help resale on a 2019 M3. For those that got little use out of the feature and are selling the per use cost is high for what little it offered over AP or EAP. Now with subscription at $99 for EAP customers I am sure glad I never got FSD and will be happier when I sell my car. Doubt I would buy it on the next one because by the time it is worth that price I would be upgrading again.
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