Model 3 crash with police cruiser, who's at fault?

[DaddyCool]

I was hoping to see footage to vote on otherwise may as well add Carol Baskin to the vote list

 

[Darmie]

I was hoping to see footage to vote on otherwise may as well add Carol Baskin to the vote list

Good one!
I guess I need to watch more Netflix for I had to google that.
LMGTFY

 

[MXLRplus]

I was hoping to see footage to vote on otherwise may as well add Carol Baskin to the vote list

If it were Carol, you'd never find the other car...

 

[DaddyCool]

If it were Carol, you'd never find the other car...

Actually, is that sardine oil on the road ??

 

[puckpurnell]

Let’s see the dash cam.

 

[EVDRVN]

I heard the driver was distracted responding to a TMC post about panel gaps.

 

[PM013]

Impossible to tell who was at fault in this one right now, not enough information. Hopefully both the cruiser and the M3 had their dashcams running.

Main questions that must be answered:

1. Who had the red light?
2. Did the cruiser have emergency lights/sirens activated? (even if it did, the officer driving the car still has the responsibility to ensure the intersection is clear if he/she was going through it on a red light)
3. Was speed a factor for either or both vehicles?

On news this morning to add to your point 2, the police were on a call with lights on, but by law they have to come to stop at red lights to avoid accidents. Apparently all involved (2 Police, 1 Tesla) were all hurt but none seriously. I guess we wait and see!

 

[lUtriaNt]

this is what i said in the other thread that was posted. Tesla vs police crash

the po po was likely running hot and the other car did not see them. po po will be at fault here.

 

[Garlan Garner]

Any body see this news clip? Who's look like they are at fault? Vote above.

I really don't care who is at fault.

I just hate to see a smashed up Model 3.

I hope everyone is ok.

 

[adrianp89]

I am going go with the Tesla, and the driver was the one that started this thread. Only explanation for such an idiotic post. I would also strongly consider Carol Baskin, zero evidence of anything at this point.

 

[smatthew]

I would hate to be in an accident with a police vehicle. It would be so easy for the police to shift blame if they wanted to, and you'd be out of luck.

 

[john5520]

this is what i said in the other thread that was posted. Tesla vs police crash

the po po was likely running hot and the other car did not see them. po po will be at fault here.

This is the likely scenario.

 

[Tessaract]

... It doesn't matter who has the right of way if you end up dead.

Very wise words.

Practically every day I see pedestrians/shoppers walk behind a car backing out of it's stall in a parking lot. Pedestrians are either oblivious or think they have the right of way in that situation. Even if they do have the right way (disputable), that will be cold comfort when they're in the hospital with a crushed pelvis.

 

[Uncle Paul]

Believe pedestrians always have the rightof way in a parking lot. Drives must be aware of walkers before proceeding. Can't just run them down.

 

[MXLRplus]

Believe pedestrians always have the rightof way in a parking lot. Drives must be aware of walkers before proceeding. Can't just run them down.

The leading cause of pedestrian deaths by auto is poor situational awareness by both parties.

However, it is much safer to suck at driving near pedestrians, than to suck at walking near cars.

 

[Bill Price]

Here's some more info. Green is the police cruiser direction. Red arrow is Tesla direction.
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More info here: SIU investigating Downsview crash involving cruiser that left three people injured

WOW!! Usually, you see cars going in straight lines. But if you look at those arrows, it appears that both drivers were inebriated and swerving all over the place!

 

[MidwestM3P]

Very wise words.

Practically every day I see pedestrians/shoppers walk behind a car backing out of it's stall in a parking lot. Pedestrians are either oblivious or think they have the right of way in that situation. Even if they do have the right way (disputable), that will be cold comfort when they're in the hospital with a crushed pelvis.

Agreed.

Several years ago, we had a rash of incidents where pedestrians were getting hit by city buses making left hand turns. The pedestrians technically had the right of way, but they were crossing in such a manner that they were in the bus drivers' blind spots, vision of them had been blocked by the support pillar in front and to the left of the drivers. On the local message boards, the keyboard warriors were loudly lamenting how the pedestrians had the right of way and those pedestrians had no fault in the incidents and couldn't have done anything different to avoid being hit.

My response was always the same.....it doesn't matter if you have the right of way, you must drive/walk defensively around other vehicles at all times. Always assume the other drivers don't see you. If it makes you feel better, we can put "I had the right of way" on your tombstone.

 

[NOLADriver]

I would hate to be in an accident with a police vehicle. It would be so easy for the police to shift blame if they wanted to, and you'd be out of luck.

Sigh....Here we go (Rolling eyes)

 

[rdunniii]

I heard the driver was distracted responding to a TMC post about panel gaps.

Nope, the drive was asleep expecting Autopilot to take care of it.

 

[CertLive]

All this speculation before the report and dashcam has even been seen... the only thing that is correct in this post is I am a member of the panel gap misalignment club.