@Sneakerbuddy, at the end of the Delivery tab, you can see the transit times. It takes 19 days on average. It's still early days.
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By changing to the performance my estimated delivery time frame would move up 2 months 2-4 months vs 3-5.Am I missing a spot to mention if your preference is AWD or not? That might be an interesting search variable to add. That and the performance model.
But! What do I know. I just showed up again a few days ago after a long break from here
@ras2645, I'm using 7.2% for the sample rate these days. 60 people have reported ordering a Performance version and 334 people a non-P AWD in the US and Canada. That means, 60/7.2%= 833 P versions and then 4,639 non-P AWD will enter production. They will start with the Performance version and then you are on top of the non-Performance AWD list. We don't know when Performance production will start. All I can see is that they acquired 2285 AWD VINs on 28 June from NHTSA and then 436 more AWD VINs on 5 July.
The difference between these two dates is exactly 7 days. That could mean 436/week production rate at the beginning and then maybe they increase it to 1000/week. This is only for the GA4 (General Assembly 4 production line aka tent line) that will make the Performance/AWD versions. I think they are using a software that calculates how many NHTSA VINs to acquire 3 weeks in advance.
To make this more interesting, here are my predictions:
- Performance production will start on 19 July 2018
- Non-Performance AWD production will start on 3 Aug 2018
@No Vne,
They have about 6,600 AWD and P orders right now. Production can't switch to 100% AWD. The VINs they acquired suggest 50/50 but I would expect somewhere between 30-50%. However, they have opened the Model 3 Design Studio to the public a few days ago. If they start making the AWD, they would get more AWD orders. Tesla's approach to the AWD version is frustrating because Tesla acts like not that many people want the AWD while in reality, that's only because Tesla doesn't make it. Even in the US, more than half of the orders would have been AWD had they started AWD production together with RWD. People are worried about the federal tax credits and generally, they don't want to wait an unknown amount of time. I will look into AWD production closer once buyers start reporting AWD VINs.
For P vs non-P split, you can look at the numbers on the VIN tab. It shows 77 P and 374 non-P in the US and 25 non-P in Canada. Therefore 77/(77+374+25)= 16.2% of AWD orders are for the P version.
@Trevor B,
There were three things buyers wanted to know:
1. Invite date
2. VIN date
3. Delivery date
Invites are now eliminated but people still want to know when to expect the VIN and the delivery. I recommend the VIN Queue 2 tab here for VIN waiters. Average VIN to delivery times for each state can be found at the end of the Delivery tab.
Sorry if this has been covered, I am new here. So you believe that there are only 66pp AWD orders in the US? I just reserved/configured/ordered within the last couple months. Ordered same 6/27-28 timeframe a lot of people did. Just curious about that AWD number and what the speculation on what percentage of tota orders are with North America and how many are SR. Thanks in advance! Your spreadsheet is incredible!@No Vne,
They have about 6,600 AWD and P orders right now. Production can't switch to 100% AWD. The VINs they acquired suggest 50/50 but I would expect somewhere between 30-50%. However, they have opened the Model 3 Design Studio to the public a few days ago. If they start making the AWD, they would get more AWD orders. Tesla's approach to the AWD version is frustrating because Tesla acts like not that many people want the AWD while in reality, that's only because Tesla doesn't make it. Even in the US, more than half of the orders would have been AWD had they started AWD production together with RWD. People are worried about the federal tax credits and generally, they don't want to wait an unknown amount of time. I will look into AWD production closer once buyers start reporting AWD VINs.
For P vs non-P split, you can look at the numbers on the VIN tab. It shows 77 P and 374 non-P in the US and 25 non-P in Canada. Therefore 77/(77+374+25)= 16.2% of AWD orders are for the P version.
@Trevor B,
There were three things buyers wanted to know:
1. Invite date
2. VIN date
3. Delivery date
Invites are now eliminated but people still want to know when to expect the VIN and the delivery. I recommend the VIN Queue 2 tab here for VIN waiters. Average VIN to delivery times for each state can be found at the end of the Delivery tab.
Thanks for the detailed info. Your research is unparalleled. You know so much I feel like you are Elon just trolling us all here on the forums under a fake name lol. I’m feeling pretty good about getting my 6/27 AWD order before end of year with your info and the big dual motor VIN batches recently.@calvan, in the long term, maybe 9 to 12 months from now, I think more than half of Model 3's sold in the US will be AWD. That's what surveys showed before Model 3 production started. Currently, I'm calculating 6,700 AWD orders. A week ago, it was 5,400.
As for the percentage of buyers from North America, Tesla never released any data about that. However, looking at Model S/X data, my guess is 53% will be from North America.
Interest in the standard range was 36% based on past surveys.
Notice also that it says 310 range, but lists the 19" Sport Wheels and 20" Performance wheels...
Notice also that it says 310 range, but lists the 19" Sport Wheels and 20" Performance wheels...
Yeah, but it's not obvious that those upgrades would change the stats from looking at that chart. It should have new stats next to the upgrades, IMO.Those are listed as upgrades, not as the standard equipment on which the stats are based.
Yeah, but it's not obvious that those upgrades would change the stats from looking at that chart. It should have new stats next to the upgrades, IMO.