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Model S Owners who Rent (non-homeowners)

Discussion in 'Model S: Ordering, Production, Delivery' started by clmason, Aug 5, 2013.

  1. clmason

    clmason Member

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    Anyone out there who have a Model S and do not own their residence (i.e. renters). How is it working out for you? Did you install charging equipment in your landlords house?

    My garage has an unused washer/dryer outlet. Can you get by using only this?

    Thanks!
     
  2. jammerdjc

    jammerdjc S Owner/Member

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    I don't rent, but I don't know why you couldn't use the unused washer/dryer outlet. What type of outlet is it? I use a NEMA 14-30 in my garage. It has covered every situation so far for me. I don't do a lot of long drives back to back though.
     
  3. ViperDoc

    ViperDoc Roadster 1305

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    Dryer charger

    If it is a NEMA 14-50 dryer outlet, I think you could get by pretty well.

    David
     
  4. dsm363

    dsm363 Roadster + Sig Model S

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    #4 dsm363, Aug 5, 2013
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    I initially paid for the installation and was allowed to install two NEMA 14-50 outlets. They took $50/month off of my lease until the bill was paid back.
     
  5. blaz

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    I live in an apartment building in California, and the parking garage has no outlets of any kind. I do my charging exclusively at J-1772 public charging stations. I'm lucky to have a couple of Blink locations close to work, so every week or two I bring my car to the charger and let it charge to almost full for the whole day.

    It's not super convenient, but it has worked decently well so far. For longer trips I can visit the Hawthorne supercharger in a pinch.

    I haven't tried bringing that CA Senate Bill to the community management's attention to get a charger installed at my parking spot. I understand that I should be allowed to have one as long as I pay for it.
     
  6. Rowlock

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    I'm in a similar situation. Trickle charge from a 110v regular wall outlet in my parking area. Just got told by my complex management company that, after several months of "investigation", they weren't willing to install the J1772 units in the shared lot that they had previously suggested would not be a problem.

    I don't think the CA bill actually covers renters. I'll hunt down the specific text tonight and check, but I'm pretty sure it only covers homeowners' associations and not rental management or ownership. I wish it did, though. Currently trying to convince them to let me pay for a 14-50 in the garage. We shall see how that goes. I'm managing OK on the 110 and topping up at local public J1772 charges when needed, but it would be nice just to have it charge fully every night.

    Good luck with your managers.
     
  7. dsmith2189

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    Hawaii has a similar law that covers the installation of charging equipment. the board approved it months ago, unfortunately the electrical infrastructure does not have the capacity to support EV charging. consequently I rely on a public charger near my apartment until the building installs another feed and transformer to support the electrical load in the parking area.
     
  8. Tacket

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    I got by for about a month charging off a 10-30 (older dryer style plug) at 24 amps. Never had any issues.

    Now that I have a little more time, I went ahead and installed a 14-50.
     
  9. pmppk

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    I rent in San Francisco, and don't have a way to charge in the garage of my apartment building. There is abundant free charging at work (about 45 miles away, in the South Bay,) which is where I primarily charge my P85. It's been working out very well for me for the 7 weeks that I've had the car. There is also a $2/hr Chargepoint station at a Walgreens that is walking distance from my apartment if I ever find myself in a pinch, but so far I haven't had to make use of it. The range on the P85 is more than enough to make another round trip home if for some reason I cannot charge at work on any given day, with enough to spare to be able run errands.
     
  10. NJ Plugin

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    I live in a apartment building with a attached public garage owned by a separate company.

    Back in December I went to The Short Hills Mall (NJ) and saw the Tesla showroom for the first time. I got all excited, and wanted to buy. Knowing my buildings garage company a bit, I knew they were somewhat difficult to work with, and thought how difficult it would be to convince them to install a charger, so I gave up the purchase idea.

    Then in March I read a article online that the parking garage company was installing chargers (4 reserved spots with two Level 2 and two Level 1 chargers in my garage (as well as double that in another garage 1 1/2 blocks away). That's when I started looking into buying the car, and have had it 2 months now with no problems with the garage. What sealed the deal was that they weren't going to charge for charging (I do pay a monthly parking fee).

    Good luck
     
  11. blaz

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    Yeah, you're probably right. I don't really have the background to understand the sections of the Civil Code that govern this. The SB-880 bill does start with this text:

    It does have the word "apartment" there, but the kind of apartment building I live in seems to fall outside of that specific definition of community apartment project:

    So yeah, I'm probably out of luck.
     
  12. HHHH

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    I rent as well in a condo, my "landlord" was fine with me installing the HPWC, but it was cost prohibitive, ($7-10k), and wouldn't make sense if I decided when my lease was up not to live there anymore. Thankfully, my in-laws live just about a mile away (don't worry I actually like them), so I visit at least once a week for 3-4 hours to make use of the HPWC I had installed there. We're there that much anyway, since the condo also doesn't allow pets and we have dinner with them and play with the dogs. I also have a Nema 14-50 a couple hundred feet away at the casino attached to the condo in a pinch. No supercharger in Vegas yet, but most of the casinos have chargers.
     
  13. digitaltim

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    I work out of state and have an apartment in that location. I paid the landlord to install a 14-50 outlet and reserve a spot in the garage. It was well worth the investment.
     
  14. mknox

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    As long as the wiring is for an electric dryer and not a gas one. Gas dryers only require a standard 15 amp 120 volt outlet.

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    Dryer outlets are typically 30 amp NEMA 14-30 outlets. With a continuous load such as an EV, you can oly load to 80% or 24 amps.

    50 amp NEMA 14-50 outlets are more typically used for stoves and at campgrounds for RV hookups.
     

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