Model S Plaid Brakes Are Terrible!

[impastu]

Just installed MPP brake cylinder brace today. Once I had the correct e-torx socket the installation took approximately 30 minutes as stated in the instructions. More importantly, the improvement in brake feel under firm-to-hard braking was significant. Highly recommended.

This clearly will not improve rotor overheating under heavy driving / track conditions, but I was very happy to finally have a firm, confident feel under the ball of my fight foot.

Brake Master Cylinder Brace for Tesla Model S Plaid and Long Range

Mushy brake pedal? This Brake Master Cylinder Brace for Tesla Model S Plaid makes a noticeable difference to brake feel, no placebo effect! You'll love it.

www.mountainpassperformance.com

 

[lbowroom]

Just installed MPP brake cylinder brace today. Once I had the correct e-torx socket the installation took approximately 30 minutes as stated in the instructions. More importantly, the improvement in brake feel under firm-to-hard braking was significant. Highly recommended.

This clearly will not improve rotor overheating under heavy driving / track conditions, but I was very happy to finally have a firm, confident feel under the ball of my fight foot.

Brake Master Cylinder Brace for Tesla Model S Plaid and Long Range

Mushy brake pedal? This Brake Master Cylinder Brace for Tesla Model S Plaid makes a noticeable difference to brake feel, no placebo effect! You'll love it.

www.mountainpassperformance.com

Have you modified your retention clips?

 

[MFrunkerOG]

Just installed MPP brake cylinder brace today. Once I had the correct e-torx socket the installation took approximately 30 minutes as stated in the instructions. More importantly, the improvement in brake feel under firm-to-hard braking was significant. Highly recommended.

This clearly will not improve rotor overheating under heavy driving / track conditions, but I was very happy to finally have a firm, confident feel under the ball of my fight foot.

Brake Master Cylinder Brace for Tesla Model S Plaid and Long Range

Mushy brake pedal? This Brake Master Cylinder Brace for Tesla Model S Plaid makes a noticeable difference to brake feel, no placebo effect! You'll love it.

www.mountainpassperformance.com

I was under the impression that hard braking was a doo doo. At least that’s what my safety score has led me to believe!

 

[MFrunkerOG]

Have you modified your retention clips?

Are you implying he wears a retainer?

 

[impastu]

I was under the impression that hard braking was a doo doo. At least that’s what my safety score has led me to believe!

I don't pay attention to safety score anymore...took too much fun out of the driving experience and made it very stressful. Safety score cliff dived.

 

[impastu]

Have you modified your retention clips?

I recall that was mentioned as a tip somewhere back in the thread but didn't really pay attention. Please point me in right direction if people have found benefit.

 

[lbowroom]

I recall that was mentioned as a tip somewhere back in the thread but didn't really pay attention. Please point me in right direction if people have found benefit.

From the Mountain Pass website: It should be noted that this product only offers a meaningful improvement in the brake feel if the pads are staying seated against the rotors. The OEM front calipers on the Model S have anti-rattle clips that appear to significantly pull the pads away from the caliper, and this must first be addressed before any improvement from firewall flex would be noticed!

 

[The Duke]

From the Mountain Pass website: It should be noted that this product only offers a meaningful improvement in the brake feel if the pads are staying seated against the rotors. The OEM front calipers on the Model S have anti-rattle clips that appear to significantly pull the pads away from the caliper, and this must first be addressed before any improvement from firewall flex would be noticed!

They don't mention the clips are there for efficiency. Having the pads against the rotors gives a little drag.

 

[lbowroom]

They don't mention the clips are there for efficiency. Having the pads against the rotors gives a little drag.

They aren't focused on efficiency. Their customers are aware of that.....

 

[impastu]

From the Mountain Pass website: It should be noted that this product only offers a meaningful improvement in the brake feel if the pads are staying seated against the rotors. The OEM front calipers on the Model S have anti-rattle clips that appear to significantly pull the pads away from the caliper, and this must first be addressed before any improvement from firewall flex would be noticed!

I'll look for those when I change over to the summer tires. Regardless of what MPP posted, I noticed a significant difference when hard braking. Unclear to me why the retention clips would interfere with the effectiveness of the cylinder brace. I can imagine that removing the retainer clips will improve brake feel under moderate conditions regardless of the cylinder brace.

 

[lbowroom]

I'll look for those when I change over to the summer tires. Regardless of what MPP posted, I noticed a significant difference when hard braking. Unclear to me why the retention clips would interfere with the effectiveness of the cylinder brace. I can imagine that removing the retainer clips will improve brake feel under moderate conditions regardless of the cylinder brace.

Because there’s a half inch off pedal travel to close the gap. Does make sense that it would feel firm after that on hard braking, which is why I asked the question.

 

[impastu]

Because there’s a half inch off pedal travel to close the gap. Does make sense that it would feel firm after that on hard braking, which is why I asked the question.

Given I'm not (yet) tracking the plaid, hard braking is just about the only scenario for me employing the brakes. I can see why brake travel and feel improvement for all states of application is important for track days and even intensely spirited road driving when deceleration predictability is most crucial.

 

[lbowroom]

Given I'm not (yet) tracking the plaid, hard braking is just about the only scenario for me employing the brakes. I can see why brake travel and feel improvement for all states of application is important for track days and even intensely spirited road driving when deceleration predictability is most crucial.

I have the trailing arms, toe arms, and brace on order. I have the easy big fella and matching rear rotors on the car but with the stock pads.

 

[impastu]

I have the trailing arms, toe arms, and brace on order. I have the easy big fella and matching rear rotors on the car but with the stock pads.

please share updates on the suspension mods. I've made some high speed carving maneuvers and the traction was sure-footed but the steering feedback relative to the chassis movement was not exactly well coordinated. Maybe these upgrades will improve the feel and feedback.

 

[juanmedina]

How many 500ml bottles of break fluid are needed for the Plaid? Any tips about changing it?

 

[MFrunkerOG]

I have the trailing arms, toe arms, and brace on order. I have the easy big fella and matching rear rotors on the car but with the stock pads.

Try the gloc pads. You will not be disappointed.

 

[lbowroom]

Try the gloc pads. You will not be disappointed.

That’s the first strong endorsement I’ve read.

 

[MFrunkerOG]

That’s the first strong endorsement I’ve read.

They work

 

[MarcG]

They work

Which compound did you get?

 

[MFrunkerOG]

Which compound did you get?

Street compound GS1