AnxietyRanger
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FWIW I'm just trading in my S in for an i8 (lightly used example that I got for a reasonable price in light of the convertible one just announced)
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FWIW I'm just trading in my S in for an i8 (lightly used example that I got for a reasonable price in light of the convertible one just announced)
Having experienced the i8 several times and owned an i3 all I can say is good luck, you will need it....Which ones? I pretty much exclusively use the steering wheel controls nowadays (the single biggest exception being the heated seat controls). I view the large screen as a little more than a conversation piece and bling to lift the otherwise run of the mill cabin. Days will pass by where I don't even touch it.
FWIW I'm just trading in my S in for an i8 (lightly used example that I got for a reasonable price in light of the convertible one just announced). I figured even if they don't announce an improvement in the current S, the launch of the Model 3 is really going to hurt the residual value of my pre-AP car, the BMW just by virtue of being more exotic should do better in the long run.
My 12 mile round trip commute in start stop city traffic is easily done on EV, so for my use (<21k miles in 3.5 years), it seems crazy to be lugging round all those batteries I never use. Clearly it wouldn't work for the majority of people as they'll be using the ICE, but for me it works.
My initial experience on the few hours I've spent in the BMW on extended test drives is the interior materials improvement is vast over the Tesla, even if it is a little "fussy" in design. It's the first car I've driven with a HUD and I can't understate how good it is, at first old habits get you looking down at the dash, but once you get used to it I don't think you'd ever want to go back. Also loved the surround view.
What really surprised me was how much quieter the i8 is than my Model S, especially over poor road surfaces. (Obviously in EV mode).
Will I go back to Tesla? I guess I'll wait and see how accurate the Roadster 2 specs are. I'm particularly sceptical on the 250mph claim and delivery times (esp. here in the UK). To be completely honest I'm not that fussed about the 0-60 times, I'd be happier with a lighter car, with smaller batteries which in turn leads to less embodied and in-use energy penalty. I hope Tesla offer multiple versions, with one being a much smaller pack, say the original Roadster with the upgraded pack + Supercharging would be more than ample, and a darn sight more environmentally friendly!!!
I do believe something is coming soon. Tesla need really set apart the Model S to the Model 3 and I feel at the moment there is not a significant difference between the two
They don’t really need to worry about further differentiation much before next summer...
I've got a fair few i3 owning friends, and truth be told their experience in service and need for warranty repairs actually makes me quite enviousHaving experienced the i8 several times and owned an i3 all I can say is good luck, you will need it....
Not odd in the slightest. I really dislike the center console in the current S/X and strongly prefer the open yacht floor storage area in my S. Even when I was sitting in a Model 3 last month, I found myself poking at the center console trying to determine which parts I could rip out to create a similarly useful space between the seats in that car.Perhaps oddly, we would actually prefer to NOT have the new center console. We like the unconfigured space between the seats
I knew what I was getting into when I got the i3 quality wise but somehow I expected better service from the local BMW dealer. I still have the service manager’s number in my phone because a call to him was required with every trip to the dealer to actually get something fixed. At least with Tesla, they do a better job is making it look like they care. Then again, I have not had to visit them with near the frequency I did with the BMW.I've got a fair few i3 owning friends, and truth be told their experience in service and need for warranty repairs actually makes me quite envious
Again YMMV, especially if you aren't having to deal with the sub par UK Service Centres.
Not odd in the slightest. I really dislike the center console in the current S/X and strongly prefer the open yacht floor storage area in my S.
Not odd in the slightest. I really dislike the center console in the current S/X and strongly prefer the open yacht floor storage area in my S. Even when I was sitting in a Model 3 last month, I found myself poking at the center console trying to determine which parts I could rip out to create a similarly useful space between the seats in that car.
I have owned a number of exotics over the years and the value of the i8 will drop faster than the Model S.Which ones? I pretty much exclusively use the steering wheel controls nowadays (the single biggest exception being the heated seat controls). I view the large screen as a little more than a conversation piece and bling to lift the otherwise run of the mill cabin. Days will pass by where I don't even touch it.
FWIW I'm just trading in my S in for an i8 (lightly used example that I got for a reasonable price in light of the convertible one just announced). I figured even if they don't announce an improvement in the current S, the launch of the Model 3 is really going to hurt the residual value of my pre-AP car, the BMW just by virtue of being more exotic should do better in the long run.
Not odd, my wife and I loved the open space. Lunchbox, purse, a huge winter jacket, it swallowed it all. Also, the car felt more spacious with that open space. I hope we get it back in a refreshed S. Or what do you think of a bench like an old Cadillac so you can sit three upfront in a pinch? I liked those. A refreshed S might actually coincide with the real full self driving ability. In that case there is no real reason to have different config in 1st and 2nd row, or? Steering wheel for the times that you use it, could be in the middle for ultimate control, with one Model 3 screen on either side, like in Tesla Semi. Ultimate Luxury version could have three separate executive style front seats with massage and everything else, slightly offset for and aft so you don't have to rub shuldersPerhaps oddly, we would actually prefer to NOT have the new center console. We like the unconfigured space between the seats. Door pockets would be nice though.
Don't get me wrong I'd rather much greater EV range, and the engine was more REX than a conventional power train (in lieu of Supercharging, but there are pros and cons to both approaches).Regarding the i8 I could never see going back to any gasoline powered vehicle including hybrids.
I just looked at its website .. the I-Pace does have a pretty interior, particularly looking at the rear seats, assuming that is actually what the production model will look like. Much nicer than the S or X interior in the rear, in my opinion, although Tesla's minimalism has a cleaner look from the front seat. I think the I-Pace exterior is better than the X, but then I don't love the X. Also, the angularity of the I-Pace doesn't seem to go with the notion of low-Cd electric cars, even if it is in fact low Cd. I like the MS exterior much more, but then I'm comparing apples (a crossover SUV) with oranges (a low, sleek, liftback sedan). I'm surprised Jaguar didn't do the exterior better, but that's because I have high expectations of Jaguar: I love the F-Type coupe. Technologically, the I-Pace seems interesting.That's why stuff like the I-Pace is so interesting. It allows reconciling the passion for EVs and passion for cars and new experiences in general.