Model Y - UK estimated dates and pricing.

[Yev000]

I'll take that bet.
That price you quote must before the grant ( since you cant have an after grant price of 49K due to the 50K cap)
the current M3 LR before grant is £49990 So you think it will be £990 less than the M3 is now? seems unlikely

Model Y will be made in Berlin with gigacastings. I think they will try to keep the price below 50k. Will probably lower model 3 price to reflect that as well.

Does anyone know if the destination and documentation fee will remain the same with shipping from Berlin and Brexit?

 

[Peteski]

LR likely to be priced at just sub 50k to take advantage of the PICG.

Performance 65k.

My guesses

Not a chance! M3 LR is already right up against the £50k limit. This MY LR is going to be mid-late 50s for sure. But there may well be a lower spec base model just below £50k.

 

[Yachtsman]

I think the base price will be 55k at least and Elon will price it against the nearest comparable competitor taking no regard for the grant which may not exist when the Y arrives in the uk.
That's my tuppence worth.

 

[UrbanSplash]

Ok. I revise my bet. Y Performance £69k

 

[ACarneiro]

I think Elon once said the Model Y was 10% bigger than the 3 so price would be 10% more?
Not sure that’s still the case...

 

[HenryT]

I think the base price will be 55k at least and Elon will price it against the nearest comparable competitor taking no regard for the grant which may not exist when the Y arrives in the uk.
That's my tuppence worth.

I think £55k sounds about right. That or below and I'm probably in. Above that not so, as it's getting within sight of a M3P.

 

[meavydev]

In theory German built cars sold in the EU with locally sourced batteries should avoid the 10% import duty.
Assuming the Brexit deal works for cars, then there is scope for a 10% price cut on Giga Berlin built cars shipped to the UK, plus reduced shipping costs compared to sitting on a ship for a month.

 

[UrbanSplash]

In theory German built cars sold in the EU with locally sourced batteries should avoid the 10% import duty.
Assuming the Brexit deal works for cars, then there is scope for a 10% price cut on Giga Berlin built cars shipped to the UK, plus reduced shipping costs compared to sitting on a ship for a month.

It’s also an opportunity for increased profit

 

[Yev000]

You fellas are aware that MY costs less to make than M3, right?

 

[UrbanSplash]

You fellas are aware that MY costs less to make than M3, right?

I presume Y will have a higher demand than 3. So a good opportunity to increase profit. They are going to mega milk the Y. No reason to pass on lower production costs to customers. At least not currently I imagine. Giga Berlin looks expensive!

 

[ACarneiro]

I’d trade my 3 in for a Y if the range was >400 miles. Maybe. I seriously like this car...

 

[Peteski]

You fellas are aware that MY costs less to make than M3, right?

The bean counters are unlikely to pass on the lower manufacturing cost to the customer. Certainly not when the perceived value of the car is higher. Just means a higher profit margin.

 

[Peteski]

I think £55k sounds about right. That or below and I'm probably in. Above that not so, as it's getting within sight of a M3P.

What's the logic with comparing it to a M3P? I would have thought you either need the extra utility of the Y or you don't. If you don't then any variant of the M3 should be more attractive than the equivalent MY version.

In my case I would prefer the Y for the extra load space and will probably swap my MX for the MY LR next year. The M3 is a second car for us with its limited boot space.

 

[HenryT]

What's the logic with comparing it to a M3P? I would have thought you either need the extra utility of the Y or you don't. If you don't then any variant of the M3 should be more attractive than the equivalent MY version.

The reference to a M3P was simply a reference to the pricing levels. If the MY LR was priced at the M3P level, then the added utility of the MY wasn't worth the extra cost to me, not that I would want buy a M3P instead. In that case I would either 'make do' with a M3 LR and save £10k or keep what I already have a while longer.

 

[gangzoom]

In my case I would prefer the Y for the extra load space and will probably swap my MX for the MY LR next year. The M3 is a second car for us with its limited boot space.

I've been looking at the Taycan, but driving around last few days in the X I don't think I can give up this view, nor the general sense of space you get in the X. Its a shame the Y doesn't offer some of the features on X, the windscreen is like a S with the panoramic roof isnt it?

Realistically I recon we'll end up replacing the X with another X, once you get use to stuff like powered doors its hard to go back to doors you have to close by hand .

 

[Peteski]

I've been looking at the Taycan, but driving around last few days in the X I don't think I can give up this view, nor the general sense of space you get in the X. Its a shame the Y doesn't offer some of the features on X, the windscreen is like a S with the panoramic roof isnt it?

Realistically I recon we'll end up replacing the X with another X, once you get use to stuff like powered doors its hard to go back to doors you have to close by hand .

The MX is a great car and I too love the panoramic windscreen, the luggage space, electric doors etc. But having said that I also like the ultra-low dash in the M3, which kind of creates it's own panoramic effect, except lower down toward the road. By comparison a BMW 3-series feels like you are looking out of a letterbox, LOL. Surprisingly, my family actually prefer the back seats in the M3 and the glass roof. The back of the MX feels more closed in with the smaller recessed roof windows and dark headlining. That was something I hadn't really considered. On that basis, the MY could be an ideal compromise for us, but have to see how it goes next year. First World choices for sure!

The Taycan doesn't really interest me. It's neither sporty enough or practical enough for my taste and very expensive. I would be more interested in the EV Macan vs MY next year.

 

[HenryT]

Just as an aside on this topic I was talking to a Tesla rep on the on-line chat thing earlier* and asked if he had a clue about pricing and availability. As suspected, no to both but his expectation is 'mid to late 2021' for delivery. On price, he said it was a frustration for them as well having no indication.

In other news, he said he'd put my name down for a test drive when available and would contact me for that.

*(I was asking why they have a MIC M3 LR showing a £1600 discount - he wasn't conclusive on why it's discounted and tried to claim it was probably because the car had been driven to a showroom and displayed for a while. Not convinced by that as didn't think we had any MIC cars yet, plus it only seems to have appeared on inventory 11/2?)

This is it -
2020 Tesla M3 Long Range AWD in GB listed at £49,160

 

[Peteski]

Just as an aside on this topic I was talking to a Tesla rep on the on-line chat thing earlier* and asked if he had a clue about pricing and availability. As suspected, no to both but his expectation is 'mid to late 2021' for delivery. On price, he said it was a frustration for them as well having no indication.

In other news, he said he'd put my name down for a test drive when available and would contact me for that.

*(I was asking why they have a MIC M3 LR showing a £1600 discount - he wasn't conclusive on why it's discounted and tried to claim it was probably because the car had been driven to a showroom and displayed for a while. Not convinced by that as didn't think we had any MIC cars yet, plus it only seems to have appeared on inventory 11/2?)

This is it -
2020 Tesla M3 Long Range AWD in GB listed at £49,160

Looks like an error. Says it’s a 2020 car with picture of 2021. My guess is it’s really a leftover 2020 car.

 

[HenryT]

Looks like an error. Says it’s a 2020 car with picture of 2021. My guess is it’s really a leftover 2020 car.

Sounds logical - leaving the 'made in China' comment on the listing just sloppy proofreading as well then?

 

[Glan gluaisne]

I have a feeling that the Model Y might run smack into the £50k price jump bracket, where a car costing £49,999 costs £3k less than a car costing £50,001 (RRP, before the PICG).

We're already seeing this with the Model 3 P being artificially more expensive than the Model 3 LR, because one gets the PICG and the other doesn't. Ford have hit the same issue with the Mustang Mach E pricing, where the AWD version ends up costing a disproportionately higher amount than the RWD extended range version, as it goes over the £50k threshold.