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Yeah, there were at least 4 manufacturers who have used them at various levels, Tesla weren't the first and won't be the last. They were the first to do it at scale and I'm sure, particularly based on comments from Sandy Munro, that more manufacturers will start to follow suit.Arent indicator buttons on the steering wheels of Ferrari’s? Hasn’t stopped them shifting a lot of cars and having the highest operating margins in the industry…indicator buttons on a steering wheel are a non issue.
That would be a clear car modification and insurers wouldn’t touch it. Can see a glut of these stalkless cars appearing on the used market for about £5k lol.I know of a few who were planning to do so, but once they got their Highlands decided they preferred the buttons.
The S3XY guys were looking at putting out an after-market stalk option, but again of the couple of dozen highland owners I talk to only a few were concerned enough about the stalks to be thinking of after market alternatives and all of those decided there was no need once they'd had a chance to drive the car for a week or two.
That's been the overwhelming view of almost every Highland owner I've heard from, even those who were initially worried by all the FUD being put out there.I’ve had my highland for over 3 weeks now and to be honest I actually prefer the buttons. They are literally by your thumb so easier to use.
Niche brand Ferrari shift a lot of cars? That’s news to meArent indicator buttons on the steering wheels of Ferrari’s? Hasn’t stopped them shifting a lot of cars and having the highest operating margins in the industry…indicator buttons on a steering wheel are a non issue.
They would say that, wouldn’t they?That's been the overwhelming view of almost every Highland owner I've heard from
Umm why?They would say that, wouldn’t they?
Niche brand Ferrari shift a lot of cars? That’s news to me
They would say that, wouldn’t they?
They would say that, wouldn’t they?
Owners though will have made the decision they are happy with this or prepared to try it. Some non-owners might buy at some point but also some who planned to buy now might not. I'm sure this will be hurting sales, it's just how much is unknown.Umm why?
If I had an issue with them I'd be certainly looking for an alternative. Tesla owners, in my observation, have been very willing to speak up if they don't like something.
There are plenty of valid issues we complain about, such as auto-wipers, I know the indicator buttons wouldn't be any different, particularly for those I know who had concerns before they purchased and had the plan to purchase after market add ons. They didn't just decide they didn't need the after market and preferred the buttons simply because they became owners and to suggest so is quite silly.
The mere fact that you only see non-owners going on and on about it should tell you something.
I can think of 40 thousand or so reasonsMy rationale is that even if they said it to justify their purchase or otherwise, there must be something else to it
If thats how you want to paint it.Well, @Jules22, there’s no doubt you’ve established yourself as the apologist extraordinaire for indicator buttons. But I’m still unconvinced and cannot see it as a positive move.
I think give the guy the benefit of the doubt. It’s not impossible at all that some will be fine with this or even prefer it. Doesn’t have to be that they are just protecting their choice of buying one.If thats how you want to paint it.
I'd say that I tried it with an open mind like dozens of others I personally know of (some of whom came in with a very negative view), along with the tens of thousands of other new owners who you don't see complaining, and realised that the buttons are better.
I'll look forward to that, but I doubt it will happen.That would be a clear car modification and insurers wouldn’t touch it. Can see a glut of these stalkless cars appearing on the used market for about £5k lol.
100% in agreement with this. I’ve done the same thing a number of times - I often switch to radio from Bluetooth when reversing off my drive then find I need to turn the volume down. Each time I wonder why I’ve been too impatient to wait a few secs and turn on the radio once going forward.I was on a bend the other week (roundabout I think but can't be sure now) with the steering wheel turned pretty much exactly 180º, and something annoyingly loud came on the radio. I turned the volume down. After doing so, I realised that I had, without really having to thing about it, turned the scroll wheel on the 'wrong' side of the steering wheel, and turned it in the 'wrong' direction. That said, it may have been more luck than judgment - not exactly something I do often.
But it made me think that maybe I could get used to stalkless indicators. I don't like the idea, but I'm willing to reserve judgment until I've driven it. If stalks were an extra cost option, I'd definitely spec them, but stalkless may be something I can learn to live with. I'm reserving judgment for now (which isn't something I was really expecting to say).