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Newer P90DL makes 662 hp at the battery!!!
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Unless Elon Musk was lying and/or willfully deceiving people when he said 10.9 back in July of 2015, and Motor Trend assisted him in covering that lie, it already has.
What say you?
Was he lying?
And if your position is he spoke too soon and later realized that he had misspoken, well then why continue stating 10.9 all the way up until a few days ago?
The position you're taking is one which compells one to conclude that willful deceit was engaged in at some point.
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What's the claimed accuracy of the scales?
By the new one, do you mean the p100d? I think the new battery pack weighs about 100 lbs more.
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St Charles
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Interesting,
You and the 10.8 TRC car are within 100lbs of each other, yes? That would seem to indicate that the pano roof just doesn't provide enough of a weight difference to matter. Something many have speculated in this thread. thank you for taking the time and resources to post this information.
Based on this it seems extremely unlikely that we will see a 450kW car break into the 10's in stock form.
I think that's a logical conclusion which unfortunately leads back to the question of how did MT do it. I don't think we will ever know.
TRC was 4890, so adding the 30 lbs for fiksegts lighter wheels his car would be 4897 lbs. I'm not sure if it's 30 lbs lighter than 19" or 21" wheels. Doesn't seem likely there's only a 7 lb difference between pano/non-pano. That's why I asked about the accuracy of the scales.
lolachampcar
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It takes a tremendous amount of testing before you can release a high value item with inherent design challenges like a LiPo battery. This is especially true of the item when it has an eight year warranty.
It would not surprise me at all if MT got a car with a development battery that just happened to have double bond wires, inconel spring in the contactor, active fuse and the chassis wired for larger current loads. That development platform surely existed back then given Tesla is shipping it today.
It does not take a rocket scientist to figure it out when MT puts up a number that no one else can touch. Applying all the ICE theory about 1/4 mile times to a BeV to hand wave a ten second run into a car that simply can not do it is not going to make it so.
It's called a ringer folks which simply proves that Tesla knows exactly what they are doing. This was not done by accident.
It would not surprise me at all if MT got a car with a development battery that just happened to have double bond wires, inconel spring in the contactor, active fuse and the chassis wired for larger current loads. That development platform surely existed back then given Tesla is shipping it today.
It does not take a rocket scientist to figure it out when MT puts up a number that no one else can touch. Applying all the ICE theory about 1/4 mile times to a BeV to hand wave a ten second run into a car that simply can not do it is not going to make it so.
It's called a ringer folks which simply proves that Tesla knows exactly what they are doing. This was not done by accident.
They may well have thought they could get all the changes added before they released the p90d but production times slipped and they shipped anyway.
St Charles
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A 500kW(V2) car with a few hundred lbs missing would be enough to touch 10.9x. This is certainly plausible.
Not only plausible, trc did 10.8 on 500kw. Unless you're calling his car a V3 with 512Kw. But that's a B.S. peak number. The power of his pack is the same as mine, 500KW.
They may have thought it wouldn't take much time to get the production line up to speed. You know, the perpetual two more weeks. Things did seem to get added incrementally. They did finally get everything added. It just took a lot longer than they thought.
I don't know where the number comes from, but it's been reported that the new pack weighs 45kg more than the old one. It supposedly has 768 more cells in it, so it should weigh more.
I would believe the vehicle scales more than a home bathroom scale.
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