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Phantom braking in my new Model Y
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This should help you understand why/how the braking has been programmed
Aerodynamic Buffeting of Adjacent Vehicles
"Air turbulence around trucks does not increase if they are longer or heavier than currently used trucks. However, the gap between the tractor and the...
www.thetruckersreport.com
Jim R
Member
I read this interesting article about buffeting, but I see no relevance to Phantom braking.This should help you understand why/how the braking has been programmed
Aerodynamic Buffeting of Adjacent Vehicles
"Air turbulence around trucks does not increase if they are longer or heavier than currently used trucks. However, the gap between the tractor and the...
colea
Member
Same for me. I have a late '20 YLR. It does have radar, though I don't suppose it is actually used with current software releases. And yes, I do regularly get phantom braking.
I have a radar car as well, but I haven't seen confirmed anywhere that the radar is no longer being used. I suspect that when I get into the FSD program (a month now, still waiting) that it won't be used. But not sure about basic AP.
Tha_Ape
Active Member
radar is still being used if you have it unless you're on FSD Beta.
Easy way to check? set following distance to "1" or AP speed to 90mph
Had this happen to me 3 times now and i took delivery of my MY 3 weeks ago. Scared the *sugar* out of me first time. Was on a multilane highway came up on a semi in the next lane going same direction. Right as i got to the corner of the trailer it just slams on the brakes. Was somewhat ready for it next two times. Guess i’ll just click it off for now as i go by til it gets fixed.
Jim R
Member
If you believe buffeting discussed in the article is contributing to phantom braking in some way, please explain.
That's the ONLY way, if you have someone following you closely.
Even quicker, don't use auto pilot.
Much longer, complain to Tesla about it. The number of reports on various forums is staggering at this point. Someone is going to get seriously injured or worse if this isn't fixed.
I agree it needs to be fixed badly. The irony of this is right after posting earlier that my phantom braking was rare I’ve had it happen three times. The last one was yesterday on a totally clear road where I have no earthly idea what could have triggered it. I was just lucky no one was behind me.
Just a suggestion with some assumptions. Your weather now in MN is not much different then in Chicago. Snow, wet, salt and water. consider cleaning the top center of the wind screen camera area. (And not just a wipers on smear the salt around) Think of the camera as a single eye the size of a pupil. if you had a 1/8” crystal of salt on your pupil would your vision be hampered? I’ve had few if any deceleration events until the windscreen started collecting salt. Just a suggestion.
Curious. Why would this only happen on Tesla's and not any other car during the winter?
Put differently, if dirt/snow/salt,whatever,is causing such major issues then it's a faulty system.
Having said that, there are tons of posts now on this forum and everywhere that show phantom breaking in any climate.
Yet I was replying to someone that said they rarely had a braking event and this week they had one and happens to be in a snow belt area like I am. You can dispute all you like, it was just a suggestion that helped me. Contribute vs complain is my direction.
Complain to Tesla is what should be happening. I keep saying it, this isn't a waffle maker that we are being the test subjects for. Folks should be outraged with this sort of car behaviour. The more that complain to Tesla (and whatever authority governs auto safety in the US.. NHTSA) maybe at some point they will listen.
But I am genuinely curious, as I have no idea. Do non Tesla cars that have similar cruise control (what ever the auto pilot would be called) use cameras or radar or something else?
