One doesn’t need to have to have a deep understanding of the terms and exact causes to know that the system isn’t working for them.
No, but one needs at least a basic understanding to know
which thing isn't.
If the problem is the database has the wrong speed limits then that's fixed by fixing the database.
Ranting about the driving algorithms that are working perfectly, even after having multiple people explain those aren't the problem in that situation, accomplishes nothing but demonstrating ones ignorance of the actual issue.
As an analogy- if your dishwasher doesn't work because your water main broke, yelling at the appliance company is wasting everyone's time and making you look silly.
Just as here, In the cases of braking due to incorrect speed limits, the issue is the speed limit, not the driving system.
This is mostly about consumer feedback. Some consumers are saying there’s a problem. Some have debated a bit around the problem and still feel, after the debate, there’s a problem. That’s pretty much it.
It's not that simple though.
Because there's, at least, 3
different problems that keep getting bunched into the same discussion.
One is braking due to speed limits changing. That s fixed by updating the speed limit database and has nothing to do with the driving code. This is not unique to Tesla, though it's somewhat less common because not everyone has a system that uses speed limits at all, and not everyone uses the same sources for speeds either.
One is AEB. Which mostly works fine in Teslas, excluding the brief 12ish hour period there was legit buggy software on a tiny # of cars in FSDBeta program. Other companies have issues with AEB too- as cited by myself and others, to varying degrees. Some far worse than Tesla (and taking far longer to fix).
One is TACC. Which is most commonly the oncoming traffic slowdowns or shadow/sign issues. FSBBeta handles this far better, because it's inherently intended to be used with coming and cross-traffic. It's not "done" yet obviously, but it shows a lot better behavior than "old" TACC does on such roads, so there's fair reason for optimism. Here, again, though many have cited other brands that have phantom braking (not AEB) so it's not unique to Tesla either.
If you want to provide
useful feedback you need to be able to understand what you're complaining about.
You don't need to know how to fix it, but should at least understand what the problem is.
Lastly I have to point out a large number of your posts are divisive. They are routinely insulting to a fair number of people repeatedly. Everyone is just trying to talk about the issue.
I'm pointing out sourced facts, including when they contradict repeatedly false claims.
If someone is insulted by that, that's on them.
Meanwhile at least one guy on the other side compared my doing the above to having ethics worse than a child molesters.
So I think you might be upset by the wrong side of the debate- but that's just my opinion. You can respect it or not I guess.
They have opinions which might be different from yours or mine but they are their opinions and should be respected.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
They are not entitled to their own facts.
So when folks keep claiming untrue things as facts, I'll keep correcting them with evidence showing otherwise.
Just as when someone misquotes others and makes up strawmen based on things nobody ever said, I'll keep correcting them by quoting what was actually said.
Just as when someone insists their own personal anecdote about another brands system being perfect is majorly important, but insists anyone ELSES personal anecdotes about the same brand not being perfect are irrelevant- I'll keep pointing out the contradiction and hypocrisy inherent.
I'm perfectly happy to respect opinions. Not so much outright dishonesty.
You're welcome to whatever opinion you wish about that of course.
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