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Absolutely. Get the ball rolling by talking to a lawyer, then give us the details and contact info to join in.sent a note about phantom braking to Elon on "X" no reply, will be rear ended sometime with this problem. Class action suit?
Interesting. I suppose everyone is different. Intervening then re-engaging FSDb has become second nature to me, and I don’t feel particularly bothered by the frequency (doesn’t seem that bad to me). But, I also understand I’m probably not the norm. I’m also all for Tesla throwing resources at improving this.I'm ordinarily not a fan of litigation as a means to solve a problem, but in this case I think it's justified. Might even breeze through under Tesla's "we don't fight lawsuits that are justified" policy... But probably not.
Phantom braking, and the associated false collision warnings, false lane departure interventions, etc are the single most dangerous and distracting aspect of our Model Y.
Gathering accurate data on activations is going to be tough, and the case may hinge on that. But even if it raises visibility and gets more Tesla development team time and focus on the issue, I'll call it a win. In the race to get FSD and other advanced stuff done, the introduced bugs to basic features like cruise control and AEB has gone away beyond reasonable.
Interesting. I suppose everyone is different. Intervening then re-engaging FSDb has become second nature to me
I'm getting phantom braking on just TACC (no auto steer) and I'm getting false AEB / Lane departure interventions on fully manual driving.
I have never paid for FSD(b), and considering what I've seen of Tesla software so far, I probably won't be any time soon.
In the past year Tesla has greatly decreased the number of phantom braking events for both of our cars (FSD and non FSD). I have one "magic" spot on a local street though where both my Teslas want to stop (not abruptly) for basically no reason in the middle of the road. It must be either some mapping issue I guess, but I am not sure.Have a 2020 M3 LR and it’s been a while since I’ve had a dramatic phantom braking event (the kind where you go from 70mph to 30mph on the interstate). In fact I finally developed enough confidence to take my wife on a 1600 mile road trip (she would NOT tolerate phantom braking well).
I used FSBb for about 90% of the drive, which was nearly all interstate. There were a few slight random slowdowns, some of which I figured out (e.g. pedestrian in breakdown lane) and some that I couldn’t, but it was basically not a factor. Not sure my wife even noticed.
I’m not suggesting phantom braking isn’t a thing, I’ve experienced it many times, just not recently, at least nothing scary.
I think it is outrageous that Elon hasn't answered your request within 24 business hours. I can recommend you a good lawyer who is looking for job now, his name is Rudy and he's from New York.sent a note about phantom braking to Elon on "X" no reply, will be rear ended sometime with this problem. Class action suit?
Yeah the phantom braking is TACC or autopilot on our '21 MYLR. Makes it totally unusable. Neighbor has a '21 MS and he hates it solely due to the phantom braking, so much so that he said he's probably going to sell it and just drive his Jeep Wrangler (which, IMO as a previous owner of five Wranglers, is even more of a piece of junk).I'm getting phantom braking on just TACC (no auto steer) and I'm getting false AEB / Lane departure interventions on fully manual driving.
I have never paid for FSD(b), and considering what I've seen of Tesla software so far, I probably won't be any time soon.