Plaid 21” rear tire woes - factory defect?

[Sam1]

Too much negative toe. I don’t think your year has any adjustment on the toe arms so you’d have to install aftermarket toe arms. Would pay off quickly as the return on investment pays off quick with such expensive tires that don’t last many miles.

Toe is adjustable from the factory. The bushings are a little softer than I like, but not terrible.

 

[Awiner]

Toe is adjustable from the factory. The bushings are a little softer than I like, but not terrible.

Doh. I looked at his username and assumed …….

 

[n2mb_racing]

Well, it finally happened to me too. I had a leak in both my rear tires for the past few months. I have confirmed my alignment is correct through multiple alignments, although it still has a lot of negative camber.

I've kept the tire pressure above 39 psi at all times and didn't observe any unusual wear on the insides. But, checking this morning, you can see the tread is clearly delaminating. I'm starting the warranty process now.

 

[Russell]

Well, it finally happened to me too. I had a leak in both my rear tires for the past few months. I have confirmed my alignment is correct through multiple alignments, although it still has a lot of negative camber.

I've kept the tire pressure above 39 psi at all times and didn't observe any unusual wear on the insides. But, checking this morning, you can see the tread is clearly delaminating. I'm starting the warranty process now.

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Alignment "correct" to who's numbers, an experienced suspension technician or Tesla? Tesla's numbers are known to be terrible.

You should keep tire pressure above 42.

 

[n2mb_racing]

Alignment "correct" to who's numbers, an experienced suspension technician or Tesla? Tesla's numbers are known to be terrible.

You should keep tire pressure above 42.

Tesla. See below. Huge range of what's acceptable by them, but whatever. If I keep the car I'll get a professional to align it.

I've been inflating to 45 psi. But, the rears leak 2 psi per day.

 

[Awiner]

Tesla. See below. Huge range of what's acceptable by them, but whatever. If I keep the car I'll get a professional to align it.

I've been inflating to 45 psi. But, the rears leak 2 psi per day.


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The rear settings look perfect BUT what height was this measured and adjusted at? If not at the height you normally drive in (ie measured in medium and driven in low mainly) then the measured alignment and adjustments are all for not.

 

[n2mb_racing]

The rear settings look perfect BUT what height was this measured and adjusted at? If not at the height you normally drive in (ie measured in medium and driven in low mainly) then the measured alignment and adjustments are all for not.

True. It's measured in medium, all driven in low.

 

[xEvoLveDx]

^how many miles and what T spec version of the tire?

 

[n2mb_racing]

^how many miles and what T spec version of the tire?

T1 revision. 16k miles.

 

[Awiner]

True. It's measured in medium, all driven in low.

Once the suspension drops for medium to low your camber likely will be in the -2 degree range and your toe will be close to 0 degrees and potentially even negative. Certainly upon acceleration the rear toe will go negative and that is what scrubs that rear tread to sidewall area.

Have it aligned in low and at least get the rear toe in the +15 degree range. Without rear adjustable camber arms you are stuck with non adjustable rear camber.

 

[n2mb_racing]

Crap. Michelin won't do anything on my tires unless I bring it to Tesla. Haven't other people had this taken care of at Discount Tire and others? I don't want to go to the service center if I have to.

 

[xEvoLveDx]

Years back on another performance car, I was able to take my michelins to any certified michelin dealer/shop and they can start the warranty process. You shouldn't have to go to tesla.

 

[n2mb_racing]

Years back on another performance car, I was able to take my michelins to any certified michelin dealer/shop and they can start the warranty process. You shouldn't have to go to tesla.

That seems reasonable to me. Discount tire has two of them, and they can install them today. The service center doesn't have appointment for tires for a month.

 

[Jayy178]

Note mileage warranty for rear tires are halved if they're on a staggered set up, so that would equate to 15k miles.

 

[DayTrippin]

Note mileage warranty for rear tires are halved if they're on a staggered set up, so that would equate to 15k miles.

That is why I went with a square setup when I went with aftermarket wheels.

 

[lbowroom]

Michelin's warranty applies to tires you buy from Michelin retailers, not tires that are supplied OEM. OEM tires are subject to what the carmaker offers.

 

[n2mb_racing]

Michelin's warranty applies to tires you buy from Michelin retailers, not tires that are supplied OEM. OEM tires are subject to what the carmaker offers.

Michelin warrantied mine. OEM tires. They did 50 percent credit.

 

[n2mb_racing]

Note mileage warranty for rear tires are halved if they're on a staggered set up, so that would equate to 15k miles.

I don't think so. They gave me 50 percent credit on my front tires as well because of excessive wear. Mileage warranty is 30k miles, I have 16k miles on them.

 

[KyleDay]

Michelin warrantied mine. OEM tires. They did 50 percent credit.

Me too

 

[DayTrippin]

I don't think so. They gave me 50 percent credit on my front tires as well because of excessive wear. Mileage warranty is 30k miles, I have 16k miles on them.

Me too

They must not be paying attention as their warranty is pretty clear about staggered tires. Maybe they did something good faith for you. I talked to my local tire stores and they were very clear about that policy. Maybe less people have tried to get a credit in your area than mine.

Anyway since I've gone to square 20's it won't be an issue.