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Plugless Power Now Available to Reserve for the Tesla Model S

Discussion in 'News' started by Electric700, Feb 18, 2016.

  1. Electric700

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    You first. Let us know how it goes. :smile:
     
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    I'm sticking with our Tesla HPWC since the Plugless charge rate is only 20 miles per hour... ~ 12 hours to recharge our P85D.
     
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    I wonder what the energy losses are on transmitting 30A over the air.
     
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    I'm sorry, but 7.2kW wireless charging is a pipe dream on any "coming soon" timescale (it says Spring 2016), even "Tesla-time". I'll get a regular, bare bones production-level Model 3 before this is actually delivers for use on a Model S.
     
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    Nikola Tesla had a dream that Power could come to homes wirelessly.

    Plugless power have already achieved success with the Volt and Leaf @ 3.3KW so I think this is a good next step for them, certainly not a pipe dream.
     
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    Until Tesla releases the 'snake-bot' charger, this would be a nice complement to 'summons' parking in the garage.
     
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    When someone is asking for money without showing a prototype or at least information about the engineering vision it is nothing to get excited about.

    Inductive charging can work and do it well (hearing aids are a example) but the transmitter and receiver need to be very close together. Further apart the energy loss is exponentially greater.

    For fully autonomous driving fleets they'll have to figure something out. In the meantime, I find it satisfying somehow when I plug into the car whether it is at home or away.
     
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    I agree with you there. The Plugless Power charging rate at 7.2 kW should be plenty for me, because I could get a full charge from zero in about 12.5 hours (90 kWh/7.2 kW), which I don't think I would even need. Using a 14-50/9.6 kW outlet, it's about 9.5 hours (90 kWh/9.6 kW) from zero.
     
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    I am happy to be wrong. but I don't see Spring 2016 (1-4 months) as realistic. :)
     
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    I'll wait for Tesla to engineer it into their own cars.
     
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    Why all the hate? Wireless charging is not for me, due to losses, but why wouldn't the company be able to pull it off? They have working systems for other EVs. They say it's J1772 emulation so the car doesn't "know" it's being charged wirelessly. Would be interesting though to know how they are going to wire the thingamajing in to the car and for example have it accept a charge without the charge port open or a cable physically plugged in. It's either they have worked with Tesla to create an option for this in the firmware (seems unlikely) or that they are somehow plugging in to the charger CAN-bus or some such thing emulating it, or maybe hijacking the actual sensors in the charge port and charge port door to fool the car?
     
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    I totally believe it will work. I also believe it's the future - and that Tesla is most likely working on a solution. I just believe their solution will be better. In the meantime I don't want to invest in the equipment from one company when I will probably prefer the Tesla product.
     
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    Agree. :biggrin:
     
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    In their FAQ system they quote 12% less efficiency than a plugged system. That may well be pretty good as an engineering goal, and I would like it from a convenience standpoint, but since a big reason I'm doing the whole electric car thing is conservation, I probably won't pursue it myself. Get it down to 5% and I probably would. Snake charger? Now you're talking!

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    I'd be a bit leery of having a J1772 emulator system installed in our Tesla by any third party. If it had problems, the consequences could be extremely expensive, not to mention dangerous.
     
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    It's more of a cool to have vs. need to have. People will buy it but i dont think it a be all that popular.
     
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    uh ok well you might as well just plug it in.
     
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    You were expecting to be able to "beam" energy to a car in your detached garage from your house? Of course it has to sit right on top of it. That's not the point. The point is, you don't have to think about plugging it in anymore. Which would be a nice compliment to the auto summon, once they move on from the "baby step."
     
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    Then why did everyone give Telsa all their money before we even saw a Model S, then we all went and did it again with the Model X, and how many are ready to do it again on March 31st of the Model 3???
     

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