Svandevo
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It will never be "Full Self Driving".
Never.
There are too many variables on the road. Until we drive on rails or equivalent system, there will be no FSD.
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It will never be "Full Self Driving".
Never.
There are too many variables on the road. Until we drive on rails or equivalent system, there will be no FSD.
I have a 2015 S85D with AP1 (mfg 08/2015). Cars one week later were badged as 90D and a year later AP2.0 hardware was standard, so no upgrades ever for me. I have what may be the best combo. Lane keeping TACC with turn signal initiated lane change. I use it nearly every day and it is a godsend on my half-dozen trips from Dallas to Denver each year and the 460 mi trips to see my son in Austin a couple times a month. I echo several of the comments about weather degradation (stopping on the side of the interstate in a cloudburst storm about radar inoperative to find a wet leaf plastered on it.) My summon (40 ft forward or back only) gets the car out of the garage when your arms are loaded, and puts it back. Autopark only presents about 1 of every 5-10 times I want it.
I would love to have the more accurate 3 front cameras instead of 1 and DashCam available.
I feel like my lane keeping with TACC is the minimum useful version of AutoPilot to be worth any extra cost, but certainly not $7K.
That’s the thing. So far they’ve promised to u/g to HW3 but nowhere have I seen they will do the same for HW4 if it’s even compatible.Here are some things to consider:
1. The cars should last for 10-20 years.
2. Tesla has a history of underestimating the difficulty of producing working FSD that can pass muster for general availability.
3. Tesla has a history of underestimating the amount of processing power needed to support FSD.
4. FSD will reach commercial availability within the useful life of the cars.
5. If you pay $7K now, Tesla will be on the hook for all the future mods need to actually make it work at no cost to you.
6. FSD will be a valuable feature when selling the car in the future.
If you agree with the above and expect FSD to arrive within its useful life, then, unless you are pressed for cash, $7K is a bargain.
Except for tap to lane change which isn’t active in basic AP and arguably should be.Yup, you’ve described standard auto pilot to a “T“. Which is included in the price of all models except for the SR variant.
Not me. I bought FSD and def did not vote for thatI think people in this thread are voting based on what they purchased.
Ok, and than? Will you probably get a refund because Tesla would get lawsuits?That’s the thing. So far they’ve promised to u/g to HW3 but nowhere have I seen they will do the same for HW4 if it’s even compatible.
Is that true? Not being facetious but unless that is written contractually I would not bank on it. What if the hardware required in 5 years costs thousands more?5. If you pay $7K now, Tesla will be on the hook for all the future mods need to actually make it work at no cost to you.
I have noticed lots of morons on the freeway -- and they weren't exclusively in Teslas!!i had the same experience as you, NOA drives like an moron. anyone who says differently is wrong or doesnt know how to drive lol. Its more of a party trick at the moment, FSD is nowhere near done in my opinion.
A dumbed down version of FSD is AP.
We need a dumbed down version of "Traffic Aware Cruise Control" to just "Cruise With Radar". Let the smart stuff happen on AP/FSD and let us use cruise without the phantom breaking please !!!
Not me. I bought FSD and def did not vote for that
I think it is worth it. Ever since I bought a Tesla, I am more a defensive driver rather than aggressive. I try to be less in a hurry and be less of a jerk on the road so autopilot on the freeway with 2-3 car distances is perfect for me. I love the self parking, works most of the time and does a great job as well. I love the lane change but there are situations where it is hard to do so I have to actually turn off autopilot to get into the lane. Actually one time in the middle of my lane change someone tried to overpower me and well the car avoided an accident.
The only feature I do not use much right now ( I dont have a garage as a daily charger) is summon mode. It was draining my battery and it really hurt me because it was using a lot of vampire drain overnight plus on top of the cold weather was not a good mix.
However, FSD (once it is more available) which I did get for the extra 6K at the time has been getting better and better; less ghost braking, better lane changing and etc. Its worth it and that price will only go up.
Elon started it.high expectations on a beta product..