raynewman
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Unfortunately I won't be there til late September; New Y won't arrive til late August.
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Queensland Electric Highway
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Murbs
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Great to see the 75kW Richmond site open!
noddy@teamterm
Team Terminal
Used it today. First checkin on plugshare. Nice place for a break between Hughenden and Julia Creek.
Candleflame
Active Member
St George and Cunnamulla are now live in the Chargefox app. Cunnamulla is also showing as live in plugshare. Anyone willing to go for a cruise this weekend to test? 
Yurika/QESH pricing has gone up substantially as of 18 March.
$0.55/kWh for DC charging (mostly 50/75kW)
$0.30/kWh for AC charging
$0.55/kWh for DC charging (mostly 50/75kW)
$0.30/kWh for AC charging
It's a jump, but fairly consistent with others.
NRMA - 60c (54c if member)
BP Pulse - 55c
AMPCharge - 69c (higher speed for 800V cars)
Evie <100kW - 58c
Evie Vic CTR - 40c
Engie - 60c
Chargefox Vic Govt - 40c
Chargefox RAA - 59/68c (off-peak, peak)
Chargefox WA - 60c
Chargefox Gold Coast - 30c
NRMA - 60c (54c if member)
BP Pulse - 55c
AMPCharge - 69c (higher speed for 800V cars)
Evie <100kW - 58c
Evie Vic CTR - 40c
Engie - 60c
Chargefox Vic Govt - 40c
Chargefox RAA - 59/68c (off-peak, peak)
Chargefox WA - 60c
Chargefox Gold Coast - 30c
Candleflame
Active Member
Chuq
Active Member
You are free to start building your own fast-charging network offering charging at lower prices.
While I respect that increased costs result in increased prices, this is an 83% price jack. I suspect that this is less about sustainability and more about a sudden budget deficit or change in operating model.
Chuq
Active Member
Likely this. The original site build costs were funded fully by the state government, and the 30c/kWh was likely the cost of energy. There was probably zero allowance for other operating/maintenance expenses. They've probably now realised they need to allow for this (like all other networks do).
Buying energy in bulk is a lot cheaper than what they rip us off for in private households. For our residential/hotel/commercial highrise towers in the Sydney CBD we pay 14c/kWh peak and 10.5c/kWh off-peak on a ~5 GWh annual contract for 2024 (used to be 8c and 6c respectively before the energy market blew up). I don't think 30c/kWh is what an ev charge supplier pays. It's far less than that.
There’s a well-known saying in engineering… “You can have fast, reliable, and cheap… but you only get to pick two”.
Actually, no. EV charging station operators get gouged mercilessly by the power companies. They're treated as industrial users (think of a small factory). They're charged as if they need huge amounts of power on standby 24x7, on the off chance that the grid might need to supply those huge amounts of power at a second's notice. Which is, umm, true.
The worst offender is Ausgrid (eastern half of Sydney, plus Central Coast, Newcastle & the upper Hunter).
https://arena.gov.au/assets/2021/10/evie-lessons-learnt-report-oct-2021.pdf (scroll down to Lessons Learned #3) (While this is from 2½ years ago, it's still the same story).
Yep. Until now, there was almost no commercial/industrial electricity user which required a very high peak, but had a low average use. The demand tariffs simply never contemplated there would ever be such a use case, and assumed demand charges based on peak use (required for grid dimensioning) would also be a proxy for average use hence ‘fair’.
But now there is a use case that is nothing like that, but one with a very high peak-to-average ratio (especially in rural/regional areas) and there has been no regulatory response to deal with it.
