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Maybe, but there is also a possibility that I do not charge to 80% or less, thus not giving the battery a chance to balance. And that I do charge to full and run to near empty so the BMS can calibrate, and no third party apps that often seem to drain the battery.
possibly. some newer cars tend to start out with 1% degradation or so. probably just means the car sat for 2-3 months in a lot.Charging the brand new SR+ and found the max capacity is 417 km rather than 423 km. Is this normal?
It is brand new manufactured in April 2021. Does the new car require calibration?possibly. some newer cars tend to start out with 1% degradation or so. probably just means the car sat for 2-3 months in a lot.
You really only see 0% degradation if you take delivery within 1-2 months of manufacture.
Two months commuting daily 96 mi each way in a “new to me” 2018 M3 LR ePA 325 mi. I drive 68mph all highway in the middle of Mississippi. Each way takes almost exactly 40% SOC; maybe 38-39%. I charge to 90% and get home with 10-13% on a typical commute. When charged to 100% SOC, three range in miles says 292mi. But my driving habits really only yield 240 miles.
It is brand new manufactured in April 2021. Does the new car require calibration?
All the more reason to register, for free, with ABRP. It'll automatically pull your car's data, including deg, ambient temps, calibrate your car's efficiency, determine your speed overage, and calculate whether you can or cannot make your regular trip.
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You can always send a msg to ABRP thru their twitter acct to find out how they determine over reporting. As for the deg figure, you have to supercharge for it to pull some data. It uses that to calculate your deg figure.I still don't quite understand what "Speed overreporting factor" means in ABRP, I also can't seem to get the "Degradation" number to show up. I've checked my speed vs. my GPS watch, and at 80 mph (car read out) it's within ~1.5 mph of my watch, but ABRP says my speed overreporting factor is 6.7%...which would be over 5 mph difference!
European (and UK, very different than Europe, lol) 2021 LR non-P Model 3s are capped at around 75kWh for a full charge assuming an older “2170” type (not 2170L) Panasonic battery in perfect condition with Full Pack When New value of 77.8kWh.Or possibly if I have the capped Panasonic pack it’s reporting degradation/capacity against the locked value?
As I mentioned above, I'd send ABRP a question thru their Twitter DM. My understanding is that they pull your charging data when you supercharge, and use that in their calculation. How they do the calculation, what start capacity assumptions, are not obvious.Hi All
I have a UK Dec 2020 build (refresh with heat pump) LR. I understand I will have either the LG or capped Panasonic battery. I recently started using ABRP and noticed the battery degradation is sitting at 8.2% and a capacity of 72.5kwh. I have only covered 2,900 miles. I wondered if it is ‘true’ degradation? Or possibly if I have the capped Panasonic pack it’s reporting degradation/capacity against the locked value?
Any thoughts welcomed.
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As I mentioned above, I'd send ABRP a question thru their Twitter DM. My understanding is that they pull your charging data when you supercharge, and use that in their calculation. How they do the calculation, what start capacity assumptions, are not obvious.
European (and UK, very different than Europe, lol) 2021 LR non-P Model 3s are capped at around 75kWh for a full charge assuming an older “2170” type (not 2170L) Panasonic battery in perfect condition with Full Pack When New value of 77.8kWh.
The exact capping value - check the other sticky thread about “2021 Model 3” discussing all of this. 75kWh is not the exact cap.
So I’d estimate you have more like 3-4% capacity loss. But not really familiar with how TeslaFi comes up with their numbers.
You can always use the other sticky thread using the Energy Screen to calculate your battery capacity estimate, on your own, too, and see if it matches TeslaFi (I would use your own calculation and not TeslaFi’s if there is a discrepancy - the described method is proven to work).
Sorry, I meant ABRP! TeslaFi is not responsible for assuming your battery started at 79kWh! I definitely would take ABRPs estimates with a grain of salt - not sure how they are estimating. There's no reason they couldn't get it close to right, but it depends on a lot. Energy screen FTW.Thanks both. I’ve only supercharged twice, so possibly need more data. I’ll also complete the manual calculation.
European (and UK, very different than Europe, lol) 2021 LR non-P Model 3s are capped at around 75kWh for a full charge assuming an older “2170” type (not 2170L) Panasonic battery in perfect condition with Full Pack When New value of 77.8kWh.
The exact capping value - check the other sticky thread about “2021 Model 3” discussing all of this. 75kWh is not the exact cap.
So I’d estimate you have more like 3-4% capacity loss. But not really familiar with how TeslaFi comes up with their numbers.
You can always use the other sticky thread using the Energy Screen to calculate your battery capacity estimate, on your own, too, and see if it matches TeslaFi (I would use your own calculation and not TeslaFi’s if there is a discrepancy - the described method is proven to work).
Yes.This isnt teslafi, its arbp. Teslafi is much more accurate for degradation as it uses extrapolated 100% charges which is very, very accurate. Wrbp i think uses supercharger billing for kwh which isnt as good and prone to rounding errors.
Hi All
I have a UK Dec 2020 build (refresh with heat pump) LR. I understand I will have either the LG or capped Panasonic battery. I recently started using ABRP and noticed the battery degradation is sitting at 8.2% and a capacity of 72.5kwh. I have only covered 2,900 miles. I wondered if it is ‘true’ degradation? Or possibly if I have the capped Panasonic pack it’s reporting degradation/capacity against the locked value?
Any thoughts welcomed.
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