No, VIN's are NOT sequential, never have been. They are given out in blocks and staggered. There are brand new assigned VIN's today that are anywhere from the 30's to 70's, with a new block of 80's just recently allocated. All that matters is creation date.
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No, VIN's are NOT sequential, never have been. They are given out in blocks and staggered. There are brand new assigned VIN's today that are anywhere from the 30's to 70's, with a new block of 80's just recently allocated. All that matters is creation date.
Wshowell
Member
Must admit, I thought when I saw all the tape marks “sheesh, this guy is crazy OCD!” And then I saw your close up pics. I apologize for what I was thinking, that’s totally unacceptable. Looks like a $200 “over the border” paint job my buddy got in college. I would not be happy either.
Where exactly is this?
LOL! I've been trying to find images on Google images to no avail. Imagine this. You're standing on driver's side of the back door. You open door. Before entering door, you look below, the area where people sometimes step on before entering the car.
Someone help me here...!
Haha. Trust me, I HATE being in this position AND being the "picky" guy. But yeah, when I went to tape the spots, I thought...... I think its just the trunk lid...thats not a big deal to ask to get replaced....then I kept finding one more...and one more...and I was getting more and more disappointed, disheartened, and pissed too!
But with the hope to get it fixed. But still, even the idea of having a "touched up" or "blended" or "repainted" car....its like its been in an accident and fixed. And its not my fault! And its a brand new expensive car!....never expected to be in this position....
Yes, I've noticed there are MANY more paint problems in the door sills. I even HAVE A HAIR IN MY DRIVERS SIDE DOOR SILL UNDER THE PAINT!.....CRAZY!
Here's a picture....hard to see, but once you do..
OMG, maybe tesla could deliver cars faster if new owners didn't feel like they had to painstakingly go over every inch of the car.
Before this the quality control of a brand new car was just something I took for granted, I've never given a 2nd thought to the quality of the paint on a brand new car, much less if there was a freaking hair embedded in it!
I guess I need to gear up to spend all day in the parking lot of the delivery center going over every inch of the exterior and interior on delivery day.
Before this the quality control of a brand new car was just something I took for granted, I've never given a 2nd thought to the quality of the paint on a brand new car, much less if there was a freaking hair embedded in it!
I guess I need to gear up to spend all day in the parking lot of the delivery center going over every inch of the exterior and interior on delivery day.
Thanks for the information.
I cannot understand why the VIN's are not sequential .... I suspect most manufacturers do follow a sequential system.
It does make it virtually impossible for analysis (buyers) to make any sense of periods where various issues occurred ..... and maybe that's the reason.
IMO it would be nice (for example) to know that after VIN XXX suspension upgrades occurred; or hood alignment was corrected; and etc.
Ludalicious
Active Member
Tesla has a fantastic service system. I am positive they will correct all the noted issues along with a loaner vehicle too. Now let's not forget that every other vehicle manufacturer sells vehicles with defects. Happens way more than anyone wants to admit. The paint on my old SRT Jeep had terrible Orange Peel. Was told they would fix the issue but would be out of a vehicle for weeks. No loaner ect. Every chrysler that comes out has Orange Peel and is far from perfect. Acceptable by most though. That absolutely had nothing to do with any of the other issues after only a week of owning the vehicle. Side molding falling, Oil sensor fault ect. It's not only Chrysler. I had a brand new Ford edge sport and after only a month of ownership, Front CV joints leaking, Drivers seat needing to be replaced just to name a few. I gave every one of those dealers the opportunity to make things right prior to posting my issues online.
JM2C Congrats on the car and I really hope it all works out for the best
JM2C Congrats on the car and I really hope it all works out for the best
Ludalicious - I agree that on the basis of the many post .... Tesla does indeed have a "fantastic service system." It is reassuring that they appear to be able to quickly correct most problems. I would point-out, however, having to rely on the service centers does have a consequence in the overall profitability of the company.
My point is obvious .... it should not be up to the service center to correct the defects that should never have left the factory.
Understand, I am a supporter (I am a reservist), but I am disappointed when I read post after post of owners having to take their brand new cars back to the service center. It really causes me pause, because I'm 2 hours from the service center.
Now the positive: My brother owns an S. I have asked him, and he has had no issues whatsoever .... which is great. I can understand and excuse some defects on a first year production M3, but the paint issues shown on this thread are inexcusable.
Tesla just announced an upgrade of the robot paint machine .... maybe/hopefully that will solve the problem.
Now finally, I concede that many other cars may have defects needing correction, but my experience over several decades with Toyota, Honda and Acura .... the ONLY service required has been oil changes, new tires and new windshield wipers. Reliable, trouble-free
transportation is available.
I sincerely hope that Tesla can get a handle on the assembly defects before I take delivery. It seems to be a "crap shoot" some cite defects and others report no issues.
My point is obvious .... it should not be up to the service center to correct the defects that should never have left the factory.
Understand, I am a supporter (I am a reservist), but I am disappointed when I read post after post of owners having to take their brand new cars back to the service center. It really causes me pause, because I'm 2 hours from the service center.
Now the positive: My brother owns an S. I have asked him, and he has had no issues whatsoever .... which is great. I can understand and excuse some defects on a first year production M3, but the paint issues shown on this thread are inexcusable.
Tesla just announced an upgrade of the robot paint machine .... maybe/hopefully that will solve the problem.
Now finally, I concede that many other cars may have defects needing correction, but my experience over several decades with Toyota, Honda and Acura .... the ONLY service required has been oil changes, new tires and new windshield wipers. Reliable, trouble-free
transportation is available.
I sincerely hope that Tesla can get a handle on the assembly defects before I take delivery. It seems to be a "crap shoot" some cite defects and others report no issues.
To add to above post, the time we spend to deal with this unnecessary problem is time a lot of us don’t have readily.
Our time is worth a lot.
Our time is worth a lot.
Took delivery of my Red AWD yesterday (545XX). Also had some paint issues.
Only two white spots I noticed were inside the crevice of one of the panels and the other being inside the upper trunk lid when opened.
https://i.imgur.com/10ogmFM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bNvyUK0.jpg
My car also had these weird small bead like things underneath the clear coat and paint. Bringing it in Monday for them to fix. They said they'll bring it to a paint/body shop for me for correction and hopefully have a Tesla loaner for me ready to go.
Only two white spots I noticed were inside the crevice of one of the panels and the other being inside the upper trunk lid when opened.
https://i.imgur.com/10ogmFM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bNvyUK0.jpg
My car also had these weird small bead like things underneath the clear coat and paint. Bringing it in Monday for them to fix. They said they'll bring it to a paint/body shop for me for correction and hopefully have a Tesla loaner for me ready to go.
jkirkwood001
Active Member
"...my paint correction done..."? What's this? Who did it? Why? Like reupholstering (sp?) a new couch?!?
jkirkwood001
Active Member
Instead of VIN, provide the manufacturing date from the label inside driver's door, no? Or is that only the month?
Thank you duy.duck, wubbles and jkirkwood001 for your comments. When I make a comment that is the least critical of Tesla .... I am always fearful of being flamed.
I believe Tesla has designed and engineered a fantastic automobile ..... clearly the "car for the future," an innovator that will be the benchmark for all other manufacturers. However, when I watch How Cars Are Made on TV, they show inspectors with markers looking at every car and indicating where corrections need to be made. Just the examples you show should never have left the factory, and to think that you paid extra for the color. E. Musk called it "production hell." I suppose consistent quality control is a sub-paragraph of that overall "hell."
Some years ago I had a Ford that was damaged and the door needed to be repainted. It was done by the dealer, but never looked right. As the car aged, the difference looked worse and worse. A paint shop cannot match the factory paint, especially the multi-coat colors like the red.
I believe Tesla has designed and engineered a fantastic automobile ..... clearly the "car for the future," an innovator that will be the benchmark for all other manufacturers. However, when I watch How Cars Are Made on TV, they show inspectors with markers looking at every car and indicating where corrections need to be made. Just the examples you show should never have left the factory, and to think that you paid extra for the color. E. Musk called it "production hell." I suppose consistent quality control is a sub-paragraph of that overall "hell."
Some years ago I had a Ford that was damaged and the door needed to be repainted. It was done by the dealer, but never looked right. As the car aged, the difference looked worse and worse. A paint shop cannot match the factory paint, especially the multi-coat colors like the red.
Brian's ReX
Member
Read the thread. Better yet, search "paint correction" and you'll have many hours of reading fun.
If the paint is this messed up, it does kind of make you wonder what else is coming out of the factory not quite right that is harder to see.
As far as I know, every tesla is test driven around a track before being delivered, so that should probably catch most non-cosmetic issues, though as they keep scaling production, I wonder if test driving every vehicle is going to become a bottle neck.
As far as I know, every tesla is test driven around a track before being delivered, so that should probably catch most non-cosmetic issues, though as they keep scaling production, I wonder if test driving every vehicle is going to become a bottle neck.
Turnfast - I read a lot of post on this an another forums. It appears that Tesla is getting a handle of the mechanical defects .... for which we are all grateful.
But the factory seems to be struggling with the cosmetic defects. I just do not like the idea that the service center must correct so many cosmetic issues. Don't misunderstand ... I am grateful that they can make corrections, but every time they must order parts, and install same .... that is costing the company, not to mention the cost of the loaner.
Then as pointed out by duy.duck, there is the effort, time and frustration of taking the car to the shop. For me it will be a 2 hour trip to the shop, 2 hours back home in a loaner, 2 hours back to pick it up, and 2 hours home with my "new" car. ( dare I mention that my wife will repeatedly remind me what the car cost, and express her opinion that at that price ... it should be faultless).
And the difficult thing to understand is .... why do some come out of the factory defect free, and others do not?
I had thought that once the robots are aligned, calibrated and set .... they produce perfect workmanship car after car.
Hopefully the new paint robot will solve the problem.
But the factory seems to be struggling with the cosmetic defects. I just do not like the idea that the service center must correct so many cosmetic issues. Don't misunderstand ... I am grateful that they can make corrections, but every time they must order parts, and install same .... that is costing the company, not to mention the cost of the loaner.
Then as pointed out by duy.duck, there is the effort, time and frustration of taking the car to the shop. For me it will be a 2 hour trip to the shop, 2 hours back home in a loaner, 2 hours back to pick it up, and 2 hours home with my "new" car. ( dare I mention that my wife will repeatedly remind me what the car cost, and express her opinion that at that price ... it should be faultless).
And the difficult thing to understand is .... why do some come out of the factory defect free, and others do not?
I had thought that once the robots are aligned, calibrated and set .... they produce perfect workmanship car after car.
Hopefully the new paint robot will solve the problem.
Brian's ReX
Member
How can this be said? Many posters on TMC have stated that Tesla's paint is (insert any number of negative comments previously posted). Tesla, especially with an 'improved' paint shop, paints vehicles at an astounding rate. There is no paint-specialist painting each car, making sure it's perfect. Add to this, 'paint' is not something for which Tesla is known to excel. Previous posts on this subject are not hard to find
A good "paint shop" could likely produce a better paint job than the stock paint job... even 'multi-coat red'. Making readers afraid that only the factory can paint your car will scare people unnecessarily. Case-in-point: Post #37
I know. My FWDs were repainted by an awesome paint shop, and they are flawlessly perfect.
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