shrspeedblade
Rideshare Monkey
If they were to have a P-RWD model, I would be all over it, as I prefer the driving dynamics to AWD. However, I really doubt that is going to happen.
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One potential scenario I am debating now (If the urge for the PXXD is overwhelming) is getting a loaded RWD early (auto pilot will be a nice perk on my 35 mile one way commute in LA traffic) and then trading it in for the PXXD using the second reservation.
If, on the slim chance this is how it goes, how much depreciation do you think I will take a hit for? My initial thought is the 3 RWD will hold value pretty well due to the back log of orders also the 7500 credit will also ease the pain - I suppose I'll have to return the $2500 to the state though....
I would be willing to forego the tax credit in order to get a performance model. In other words, timing of the tax credit isn't what's going to make my decision, and I definitely want a performance model.
That said, there's still a very good chance I'll just keep my P85. I have been to the hardware store and lumber yard a number of times in the last couple of weeks, and am remembering how much I like the ability to haul 8'-10' long pieces of lumber and 10' long segments of PVC. I could hitch a trailer to the X, but it's much easier to just take the S. I think the 3 will have really good cargo capacity, but I don't see it being quite as versatile as the S.
I am a non owner in CA reserved at around 10:10 at the store morning of the opening of reservations.....
I have 2 reservations (last minute decision while standing in line - in case a family member decided later they wanted one). One potential scenario I am debating now (If the urge for the PXXD is overwhelming) is getting a loaded RWD early (auto pilot will be a nice perk on my 35 mile one way commute in LA traffic) and then trading it in for the PXXD using the second reservation.
If, on the slim chance this is how it goes, how much depreciation do you think I will take a hit for? My initial thought is the 3 RWD will hold value pretty well due to the back log of orders also the 7500 credit will also ease the pain - I suppose I'll have to return the $2500 to the state though....
but they don't now with the S or X... P includes both D and Ludicrous rather than them being upgrades. Probably because most people got both anyway.They will make P versions in RWD just like they did with the model s. Which is probably what I'll be gunning for. Don't want AWD.
I know he misinterpreted, but I didn't. He told someone that if they waited in line, they MIGHT still be able to get AWD this year (maybe for CA in my opinion), but P will still be a while after that.Just to clarify, I don't blame you McHoffa, this is Fred Lambert's fault for misinterpreting Elon's tweets
Tesla Model 3 will not be available with all-wheel-drive dual motors at launch, says Elon Musk
March 24th plus 6 - 9 months = still 2017
Elon Musk on Twitter
luckily you're in California, so it's more certain for you... I'm on the east coastI didn't vote since I think there is a decent chance that the poll presents a false choice re the tax credit.
On March 24, Elon said the "P" version would be out "probably a year from now," so roughly late March 2018. The AWD version should be available earlier.
It seems like there is a decent shot (although not certain) that the $7500 credit won't run out until June 30, 2018, with the $3750 tax credit available until December 31, 2018. So, many customers ordering the P version may qualify for the full tax credit, depending on how things roll out.
Personally, I am hoping to order a P version first but if the "P" timeline slips or full tax credit phases out sooner might start with an AWD instead (I hope to eventually order one P and one AWD).
No misinformation. Look at his tweet I posted above. He said chances are good that someone that waited in line might get the AWD by December 31. If you didn't wait in line, I wouldn't count on it. If you are on east coast, like me, I'd say chances are low. If you're not in the US, or if you ordered after the reveal, I'd say forget getting AWD this year.AWD will be out in 2017 and P version in Q1/Q2 of 2018 meaning good chance we will all get the full credit. Threads like this post misinformation about the AWD and P timeline plus add confusion regarding the tax credit availability.
They do fold down in the 5 passenger version.This just blows me away. Tesla is selling a sport UTILITY vehicle and owners that also have Model S are opting for the Model S when taking trips to the hardware store. Tesla needs to make getting the second row seats to fold down a top priority. I feel that is one of the main reasons preventing the Model X from outselling the Model S.
Same boat. I was #20 in line at my store. Unfortunately they had an internet glitch that slowed orders. My order went through about 10:30am. I only reserved one then, but about 15-20 minutes before the reveal, I reserved another one.I am a non owner in CA reserved at around 10:10 at the store morning of the opening of reservations.....
I have 2 reservations (last minute decision while standing in line - in case a family member decided later they wanted one). One potential scenario I am debating now (If the urge for the PXXD is overwhelming) is getting a loaded RWD early (auto pilot will be a nice perk on my 35 mile one way commute in LA traffic) and then trading it in for the PXXD using the second reservation.
If, on the slim chance this is how it goes, how much depreciation do you think I will take a hit for? My initial thought is the 3 RWD will hold value pretty well due to the back log of orders also the 7500 credit will also ease the pain - I suppose I'll have to return the $2500 to the state though....
They do fold down in the 5 passenger version.
The problem is the survey.... There's no choice for "I will get PXXD and get the full tax credit"No misinformation. Look at his tweet I posted above. He said chances are good that someone that waited in line might get the AWD by December 31. If you didn't wait in line, I wouldn't count on it. If you are on east coast, like me, I'd say chances are low. If you're not in the US, or if you ordered after the reveal, I'd say forget getting AWD this year.
In the past Tesla has taken the $7500 Fed credit off of the trade value as the starting point, before calculating depreciation. Then tack on your CA tax ($3-4K) that you'll never see again.
Trading back to Tesla is going to probably be a pretty hard hit. Selling third party might give you a chance of breaking even.
Only if you're lucky! He said "about a year from now" at the end of March, so I would guess only a select few current owners in California will get it within Q1-Q2, and if they hit 200k deliveries in Q4 this year, Q2 won't even get full credit, so none of the P's would get $7500.The problem is the survey.... There's no choice for "I will get PXXD and get the full tax credit"
...I just hope we can build a PXXD and see the estimated delivery time........
It's extremely unlikely they will hit 200,000 in Q4 this year unless Model 3 ramp up has zero issues, and zero units go to Canada or Mexico.Only if you're lucky! He said "about a year from now" at the end of March, so I would guess only a select few current owners in California will get it within Q1-Q2, and if they hit 200k deliveries in Q4 this year, Q2 won't even get full credit, so none of the P's would get $7500.
I don't know, I guess it's probably most people putting down a deposit would be able to get the full tax credit.
- Q1 2017 earnings call
He also thinks the 3 feels like a spaceship (sorry, it was too easy).Elon was saying the he feels like nearly all the early pre-orders will get the full credit.