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I'm fairly confident we'll see low 160s. There's a very very very small chance I'll be wrong. We're talking about a super rare wave pattern followed by a super (too) deep retracement that ends up resulting in price rocketing next week. I can only say this: if I'm wrong and we see 188 first as price rockets up from here, get out of all bearish bets. I don't think I'm going to be wrong but just in case I get run over by a bus tomorrow.

If we trade lower than 171.44 first, 0% chance I'm wrong.
Your insights and this data makes me cautious not to get too bearish the next few months.

Further down in this thead: "However, the seasonal view of election years somewhat disrupts the beautiful seasonal trend. The election year we are currently in is the worst year for this seasonal pattern. But it also has a positive outcome."

 
Your insights and this data makes me cautious not to get too bearish the next few months.

Further down in this thead: "However, the seasonal view of election years somewhat disrupts the beautiful seasonal trend. The election year we are currently in is the worst year for this seasonal pattern. But it also has a positive outcome."

I just did a non-scientific visual check on TSLA end May - July for the last 10 years and indeed mostly it has performed strongly through this period, although there are a few exceptions, 2022 being one them, where it was more volatile. 2023, of course it popped up about 100% from May to end July (of course last year we came off the back of the 2022 crash and the catalyst for the pop to $300 was the Shareholder meeting, where Dr Jeckyll turned up before reverting to Mr Hyde for the subsequent earnings calls...)

Seems the main trend is for the first four weeks, then several years it faded out int he final week of June

Of course past performance does not indicate future...
 
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Yesterday:
Rolled 31/05 175CC to 07/19 180CC for about 7.
These 100 shares are at about 175 cost base, so now above + gained some more premium.
Could've let it run for a few days, but as we might see us going lower very short term, I prefered the certainty of more premium at a higher than cost base strike.

Also rolled 01/25 220 CC to 200 for about 5.
 
A report that GF3 has cut MY production 20% for 2Q, but it's from Reuters, so might just be FUD

Norway price-cuts have not been widely reported, which I find strange... maybe they keep it in their pocket to deploy when needed

I was at Tesla this morning (yet again service on my MXP, getting too much...) and they're happy with sales here, but said the constant pricing changes are causing a lot of confusion and frustration with prospective customer they'd like to see some stability/clarity on that front: example, customer told to order a car "now" as the reduction will end soon, client doesn't order, reduction ends, client orders at higher price, reduction comes back in force a few weeks later... not good!
 
I was at Tesla this morning (yet again service on my MXP, getting too much...) and they're happy with sales here, but said the constant pricing changes are causing a lot of confusion and frustration with prospective customer they'd like to see some stability/clarity on that front: example, customer told to order a car "now" as the reduction will end soon, client doesn't order, reduction ends, client orders at higher price, reduction comes back in force a few weeks later... not good!
Does Belgium have a more sane car sales system than the US? As in you have a sticker price, but what you pay comes down to your negotiating skills and the particular dealer you go to?

Here the price transparency with Tesla (even if the price is volatile) is generally a breath of fresh air for new customers.
 
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Does Belgium have a more sane car sales system than the US? As in you have a sticker price, but what you pay comes down to your negotiating skills and the particular dealer you go to?

Here the price transparency with Tesla (even if the price is volatile) is generally a breath of fresh air for new customers.
It's more sane than the US, but the dealers of regular OEMS (BMW, Volkswagen, Audi, Mercedes,...) still allow for negotiation. Just less % of the sticker price than with US dealers IMO. (not scientific, I speak from experience in Belgium versus what I see in American movies/tv shows)
 
It's more sane than the US, but the dealers of regular OEMS (BMW, Volkswagen, Audi, Mercedes,...) still allow for negotiation. Just less % of the sticker price than with US dealers IMO. (not scientific, I speak from experience in Belgium versus what I see in American movies/tv shows)
Indeed always been like this here in Belgium.
Know people who drove from one dealer to another with the offer they got from the first one to get more discount 😄.
Same goes for mortgage... People visit several banks to get the best tariff and then they use cheaper tariff to get an even cheaper one at another bank.
 
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Yeah... never liked roulette! Definitely need a careful strategy to play it.
…TBH, I really like roulette!!!
All those giant casinos are built from the $ taken from folks who thought they had a "careful strategy" for gambling.
So true…I often think about this, both when at the Vegas casinos and when at my computer screen reading this very site while we all play at the even-bigger-than-Vegas casino…
Roulette (barring folks wanting to run a team with computers and lasers and risk felony charges in many though not all jurisdictions) is the dumbest game in the casino.

They literally write out on the table the actual numbers showing you it's a losing bet every single time.

Any single number pays 35:1... but there's 38 single numbers (37 overseas)
Any Column pays 2:1.... but there's 3 colums.
Any 12-number-group pays 2:1... but there's 3 groups.
Red/Black pay even money. But there's two numbers that aren't red OR black (one that isn't overseas)
There are single-zero tables (albeit with a $100 minimum for each bet) which slightly reduces your loss % rate. Of course, more and more there are also more and more triple-zero tables appearing in Vegas. I find those truly to-be-avoided… No change in payout rates, just less favorable odds in exchange for lower minimums.
If you wanna lose money slowest at a casino table game and can count cards ok (or maybe even win a bit if you're very good at it) you play blackjack.
(or if you can still find a full pay video poker machine, do that and just play correct strategy)

If you wanna lose money slowest at a casino table game without doing any work (but be a little unpopular) bet the don't pass line at craps.

Both of those can be profitable if you do it at a casino with high-end enough free liquor :)

Personally I stick to poker, the only place you don't have to worry about a built-in house edge and just have to beat the other players... since unlike this thread casinos don't offer you the chance to BE the house.
I think what I enjoy the most about roulette is that my goal is not to make money, it is to buy entertainment. Blackjack or poker requires me to think, and craps requires me to stand. Roulette is nothing more than a happy little ball that bounces around in a wheel, while I get to spend hours sitting down, enjoying those free high-and beverages, and chitchatting with the dealer and the endless stream of those who sit down, brag about their “strategy”, go up-and-down but *almost* always end up leaving the table down (or even chip-less), only to be replaced with the next person, all while my chip stack shrinks at an acceptable rate.

Comparisons always break down at some point, but roulette vs here:
* Roulette is a game with an expected loss rate over time; here is a game with an expected gain rate over time.
* Roulette allows me to suspend thinking for a while, and remember how little in the universe I can control vs pure randomness of a bouncing ball; here, a great deal of thinking goes into controlling how the pseudo-randomness of stock prices affect my portfolio.
* Both are by far the *most* interesting to me not for the game being played, but for the people-watching and conversations to be had!
 
…TBH, I really like roulette!!!

So true…I often think about this, both when at the Vegas casinos and when at my computer screen reading this very site while we all play at the even-bigger-than-Vegas casino…

There are single-zero tables (albeit with a $100 minimum for each bet) which slightly reduces your loss % rate. Of course, more and more there are also more and more triple-zero tables appearing in Vegas. I find those truly to-be-avoided… No change in payout rates, just less favorable odds in exchange for lower minimums.

I think what I enjoy the most about roulette is that my goal is not to make money, it is to buy entertainment. Blackjack or poker requires me to think, and craps requires me to stand. Roulette is nothing more than a happy little ball that bounces around in a wheel, while I get to spend hours sitting down, enjoying those free high-and beverages, and chitchatting with the dealer and the endless stream of those who sit down, brag about their “strategy”, go up-and-down but *almost* always end up leaving the table down (or even chip-less), only to be replaced with the next person, all while my chip stack shrinks at an acceptable rate.

Comparisons always break down at some point, but roulette vs here:
* Roulette is a game with an expected loss rate over time; here is a game with an expected gain rate over time.
* Roulette allows me to suspend thinking for a while, and remember how little in the universe I can control vs pure randomness of a bouncing ball; here, a great deal of thinking goes into controlling how the pseudo-randomness of stock prices affect my portfolio.
* Both are by far the *most* interesting to me not for the game being played, but for the people-watching and conversations to be had!
The most basic Roulette strategy (the Martingale strategy) can be applied to trading.

For those few unaware, Martingale strat means you double your bet (or capital at risk) every time you lose, in order to come out ahead at the first win (on the roulette wheel or in the market).

Roulette example:
You bet $1 on black.
IF black -> you receive $2, so $1 profit.
IF red/zero -> you lose your bet of $1. You then bet $2 so IF black -> you receive $4, so $1 profit. IF red/zero, your total losses are $3. In this last case you bet $4, then $8, $16, $32 and so on.

I remember back in the day when @options_snipper (Options Sniper twitter acount, stopped a few years ago) posted live trades, I often joined him with small bets, but with a Martingale Strat.
He bought options (never sold 'em) for say $0.7, to get out at $2.0 or something, many times "doubling" the "bet". So everytime it paid off I had a profit. If not I bet double the next trade. I soon stopped doing this since it leads to trouble fast.

Just like in the casino the problem with Martingale is two-fold:

1) you need unlimited capital for it to work 100%. If not you risk running out of money due to many losses in a row and you can never recover.
2) even with enough money to "safely" play (ahum, doesn't exist), i.e. having enough to for example double your bet for twenty times in a row, you end up spending/betting huge sums of money for very little gain. The higher up you go in the strategy (3rd bet, 4th bet, etc) the less reward you'll get to more risk, so the R:R is completely out of whack.

It's better to find an edge and try and exploit it. In roulette this is impossible, because of basic maths. Selling options this seems possible, but the odds are often stacked against us so therefore a hugely important part of option plays is careful entry selection. Shoutout to @Yoona and @dl003 who have very different trading styles, but each are very selective in which trades to enter. This is the only reason they can be succesful in the long run.

TL;DR: before entering a trade, look at risk-reward ratio and what you will do if the trade goes against you. I try to keep reminding myself of this.

GLTA
 
TSLA leaning bullish next week as of now:

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It's broken. But maybe a bounce first. Probably won't go straight down to low 160s.
Scale out of my put spreads. Will add back in if we get a small bounce here to ~ 178.

Sorry to interrupt the Chinese FSD/Belgian auto dealer roulette forum (IMHO, 'nuff of that sort of thing on the main forum), but I hope @dl003 provides us with more of his much appreciated blow-byblow reporting on TSLAtoday. I see we've almost reached his ~$178 just now.
 
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at the rate this is going, it does look like my SMCI cost basis 901.66 will quickly reduce to 850 and i am finally out, which means DITM CC + Stock Repair is a super deadly combination where income is virtually guaranteed and there is no possibility of capital loss (unless SMCI goes bankrupt)

what did i learn?
  • when stock fell from 900 to 700, there was still about $250/wk OTM income while waiting for sp to rise; this worst-case scenario in itself is already very good (ie getting paid to wait it out)
  • when stock traded sideways, there was Stock Repair income while waiting for sp to rise; ~$1000/wk per contract
  • when stock rose to 850, i keep $812 for my trouble, and the Wheel round 2 starts again
  • in other words, there is income down or sideways or up, and covered call means there is no chance of blowing up acct
FOUR YEARS i wasted on spreads when i could have been doing this :mad:

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another thing i learned is that you can roll(!!!) the Stock Repair Strategy

cost basis = 901.66
total credits (from rolling) to date = 2,462 per contract

that means MM is paying me to hold my underwater shares

the longer SMCI consolidates 800-950, the more income i get just by holding on to shares bought higher

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