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Short-Term TSLA Price Movements - 2015
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Jonathan Hewitt
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Johan
Ex got M3 in the divorce, waiting for EU Model Y!
Gtoffo
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I'm not an expert. But it does feel like the amount of manipulation TSLA is subjected to is insane..... volume is so slim... the behaviour of the last few weeks has been really insane. How many analyst upgrades/positive notes do we need to start claiming decisively!?
I wonder how many shares are actually being traded out of the total. I mean, once we factor the internal owners+long term believers I wonder how many shares remain floating around.
I wonder how many shares are actually being traded out of the total. I mean, once we factor the internal owners+long term believers I wonder how many shares remain floating around.
That is an entirely apposite story, Causalien. Here's a corollary: if your corporation is large enough to deal with the likes of Goldman and MorganS, but not quite the size of, say, Apple or ExxonM, then be prepared to have them play hardball with you....with you as the ball. The last ten-twelve hours stinks to high heaven of Morgan playing every side every which way but correct - in terms of (1) trying to snag TM to come back to them for another round of financing, (2) of assisting their institutional clients in amassing shares, and (3) in fleecing their smaller clients* in the short- and medium-term future.
*smaller: Morgan Stanley doesn't cater to small investors, as far as I'm aware (not really - disregard certain funds they manage). For them, 'smaller' means in the $50-100mm range....
I'm so glad I listened to the earning call as usual. Nothing made sense this morning and with everyone's feedback in the forum I expected to start at 235 and hit 242-245 today. Amazing how much the stock was slammed this morning. I hope everyone hung onto their shares and accumulated more!
chickensevil
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Hogfighter
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Going back to the CapEx spending discussion, Deepak answered that question on the CC. With the finished goods inventory increasing, they will tap into a credit line with the finished goods and raw materials inventory as collateral. That should take them to Q4, when they will be cash flow positive.
It'll take a few days for investors to digest all of the information presented yesterday, but as that happens the upward pressure on the stock price will increase.
It'll take a few days for investors to digest all of the information presented yesterday, but as that happens the upward pressure on the stock price will increase.
Gtoffo
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Symbol: TSLA
Availability: 100'000
Keeps oscillating between 400k and 100k. That's 300k*235=70.5million$ short....
Symbol: TSLA
Availability: 100'000
Keeps oscillating between 400k and 100k. That's 300k*235=70.5million$ short....
I like that the volume is significantly higher now that the price is above opening. It looks to me like a definite upward trend for the time being. It's too soon to call it a real squeeze, but it might be the beginnings of a small one.
Hogfighter
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chickensevil
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It's nice to see an autoblog say exactly what we all have been complaining about here on TMC... which is a lack of *true* commitment from competition. If they would really embrace EVs it might be different and it would be a joy to see... sadly, nothing has truly been a compelling EV except for Tesla's products. And we all know why they won't switch any time soon, ICE still sells, and it sells *very* well. Why cannibalize your own product lines on a gamble that, in their eyes, might not even pan out.
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Yeah, it was first stated in Q3. Reiterated in Q4. And stated once more in Q1... and ignored every time
The only thing that has changed is they originally said it would be "around Q3", then said "Maybe end of Q3 or Q4" and now we are solidly into Q4 for when we should expect to see the cash make a big turn around for the company. I think this is a bit of insight into when they were originally hoping for factory upgrades and suppliers to come together and now we won't see the full payout until Q4.
On the one hand, I am so looking forward to when this finally drops because it will be a game changer... on the other hand, as they keep pushing this statement back, they are inadvertently implying that it is getting harder and harder to meet their expected 55k guidance. Because I remember in Q3 of last year they first said 2,000 a week by the end of this year, and it seemed to strongly imply Q3 might be when this happens. Now, I am inclined to think the 2K number will be lucky to exit the year at that level. Will 1 quarter's difference matter in the long run? Most likely not... But if you are trying to plan the short term game, good luck. I would give yourself wide berth on when this is finally going to drop and impact the share price.
CALGARYARSENAL
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Tesla just like Lazerus. Rises from the dead. Can't wait for the last 15 minutes squeeze. Who the hell wants to be short this thing? I believe Cramer will begin to back the stock real soon. His demeanor is changing.
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