Not even close. Its gotta be the new Chrysler Pacifica.
Chrysler and Waymo unveil the design of first fully self-driving electric Chrysler Pacifica; 100 of them produced for test fleet
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Chrysler and Waymo unveil the design of first fully self-driving electric Chrysler Pacifica; 100 of them produced for test fleet
racer26
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That would be silly. So far as I know, we've only ever seen the 3 alphas we saw on stage in March out and about in public.
The red one seems to be some sort of wind-tunnel test article, and is not functional. Has no powertrain or interior and does not have the real body structure. Last known location: outside gigafactory, during the gigafactory grand opening.
The matte black and silver ones are functional prototypes, and gave test rides during the unveil, and have been seen intermittently on California roads, at Tesla facilities and during a few Tesla events (like the solar roof reveal, family and friends day, etc).
I believe it is on purpose that these three are the only ones we've seen. It is fairly easy to move cars from one facility to another unseen, with enclosed trailers.
I suspect we won't see any other model 3s on public roads until after either the January gigafactory event, or model 3 part 3 unveil (assuming those are different events)
Oops, shorts weren't able to keep TSLA in the red. You could see quite a nice run upwards now that the tractor beam has been broken.
dc_h
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Any service center anecdotes from the weekend? Delivery numbers, if hit, imply cash flow positive and possibly gaap profit. Risk being big end of quarter rush and hold up if 5 seat model X, which seemed to have been resolved last few weeks. Model X production seems around 13,000 based on vins, but deliveries is unknowable.
dc_h
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Noted: thoughts on short interest carried into new year? Will soft shorts bail before delivery numbers are revealed on day one of 2017 trading.
racer26
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The way I see it: other manufacturers haven't previously had the luxury of being able to do long term testing of their vehicles fully indoors because of the health concerns of the employees working in such a facility. GM could have done it with the Bolt (and likewise Nissan with LEAF, Mitsubishi with i-Miev, etc) but they're all traditional automakers stuck in a legacy mindset so it may not have even occurred to them to bother trying to keep them under wraps like that. They're so used to needing to test outdoors where spy shots are possible that they just accept it as part of the equation. Additionally: the others haven't had the autonomous driving and charging tech to be able to just set up a warehouse with a fleet of cars and superchargers and let it go for a month and see what happens.Really good, with references for all the data they use. My comments on the "why they will/won´t make it section" at the end:
Sorry, a bit OT.
SP action is getting interesting: looks like maybe the shorts are running out of ammo? @vgrinshpun? Certainly appears their pressure is losing the battle to the buying pressure for the time being.
Jonathan Hewitt
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TSLA is in an uptrend following a channel in between the 5 day SMA and the upper Bollinger. It is currently working on getting past the 100 day SMA.
racer26
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So far as I know, the majority of this type of testing is about validating the longevity and reliability of parts in the all-up configuration. Easily done indoors. Its only the last bit of user-experience testing that needs to see public roads.
Actually, at least at Fidelity, after active pre-market, borrowing is benign. It looks like there was a push in first half hour after open which essentially failed. There are shares available for shorting at Fidelity, just not enough takers. SP is about to break 100 day SMA which currently sits at $203.42
racer26
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Interesting.
SP is indeed currently flirting with the 100 day SMA. Once we punch through it solidly I imagine the technical traders and the momentum traders start driving the ship. Next stop the 200day SMA at around 214?
Many of you have mentioned that Tesla is testing the model 3 indoors, presumably to maintain secrecy...
My question is what would they be keeping secret?
With the design already revealed earlier this year, wouldn't it be in their best interests to show the car being tested? That would give the market greater confidence in their timeline and could increase the stock price making a cap raise more feasible...
Or do you think such information is being held back to engineer a short squeeze via a burst of positive developments at a later time?
I cannot believe I am excited to see tesla at 204. Us bulls have been so repressed !
My question is what would they be keeping secret?
With the design already revealed earlier this year, wouldn't it be in their best interests to show the car being tested? That would give the market greater confidence in their timeline and could increase the stock price making a cap raise more feasible...
Or do you think such information is being held back to engineer a short squeeze via a burst of positive developments at a later time?
I cannot believe I am excited to see tesla at 204. Us bulls have been so repressed !
I'd watch the www.shortanalytics.com numbers to see if the percentage of trading done by shorts increases. We were around 36-38% trading by shorts last week, which is a low number. Normally, you'd expect it around 40% on an up day for TSLA (down days can be 50-60% shorts). If we see the percentage of short trading on up days in the 50% or higher range, I'd say that shows net covering. Because the shorts have been so firm on holding so far, we might have to climb above the 200 day ma before reasonable numbers start heading for the exits. I expect the shorts to defend the 200 day aggressively, just as they did in the 3Q delivery numbers and 3Q ER. The big difference this time is that we don't have the uncertainty of an election and the SCTY merger vote hanging over TSLA's head. The quarter's results cannot be rationalized as a one-hit-wonder if Q4 results are good again. We may very well cross the 200 dma this time around.
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JRP3
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Mostly the interior, specifically the dash area.
larmor
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How does recent tsla chart and moving average action compare with recent history of googl, aapl, fb, and nflx? They all had jumps and retractions, with relative ease. TSLA appears mired for some reason, despite great financial numbers, less debt, and projections. It was some time before netflix started making its own shows-requires alot of capital and risk tolerance.
Kenriko
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Speculation: January event is to show off fully functioning production line for M3 battery packs. Additional details will come out at the event.
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