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Imagine that you were an automobile owner around 1910 and you were using a hand crank to start your car.I have already ordered 2023 Tesla Model Y Long Range but wondering if I should wait for new Tesl Model Y with 4680 Battery. What do you guys think?
.... and now there are no starter motors on electric vehicles. Although there is a push to start button on the Mach E.Imagine that you were an automobile owner around 1910 and you were using a hand crank to start your car.
You would be upset when new cars began appearing with a starter motor.
Imagine that you were an automobile owner around 1910 and you were using a hand crank to start your car.
You would be upset when new cars began appearing with a starter motor.
Tesla has not been able to scale 4680 production or increase the power density of the cells as much as they hoped
No. Elon has said before about Lucid’s headlining range figures that it doesn’t make sense to chase 500+ miles range and it’s a waste of battery. Humans will need bio/rest breaks long before hitting 500 miles. There is no need for such range with improving charging infrastructure. As it stands, current battery capacity and Tesla Supercharger network is not that far off from parity with ICE road trip times.Would it be conceivable to see a 500 miles range Model 3 LR or Model S LR by the end of 2023?
If so, what structural battery size would be needed and possible to fit inside the body frame ?
500 miles of EPA range (I.e. ideal weather driving 60mph) feels just about right since that provides about 300 miles in many scenarios (winter, towing, charging 10% to 70% on road trips). Current MY range is barely enough. Mainstream adoption will need more!No. Elon has said before about Lucid’s headlining range figures that it doesn’t make sense to chase 500+ miles range and it’s a waste of battery. Humans will need bio/rest breaks long before hitting 500 miles. There is no need for such range with improving charging infrastructure. As it stands, current battery capacity and Tesla Supercharger network is not that far off from parity with ICE road trip times.
Might as well wait for the Zeekr 001 to hit the states, with it's 641 miles of range. Point is - there is always something better on the horizon. That is the sweet thing about technology. With the tax credit and price drop, price pushed me past that type of hesitation.I have already ordered 2023 Tesla Model Y Long Range but wondering if I should wait for new Tesl Model Y with 4680 Battery. What do you guys think?
It is relatively simple math... The MYLR would just need a 123 kWh battery to get 500 mile range. So, either the battery would need to be 50% physically larger (and 550 lbs. heavier) than the current battery. Or they would need to increase the energy density by 50%. Neither seems likely in 11 months.Would it be conceivable to see a 500 miles range Model 3 LR or Model S LR by the end of 2023?
If so, what structural battery size would be needed and possible to fit inside the body frame ?
It is relatively simple math... The MYLR would just need a 123 kWh battery to get 500 mile range. So, either the battery would need to be 50% physically larger (and 550 lbs. heavier) than the current battery. Or they would need to increase the energy density by 50%. Neither seems likely in 11 months.
not happeningWould it be conceivable to see a 500 miles range Model 3 LR or Model S LR by the end of 2023?
If so, what structural battery size would be needed and possible to fit inside the body frame ?
It is conceptually possible, but unlikely in near-term. Currently available battery tech would add a great deal of volume and weight to the car. Adding weight would likely require adding more structural weight to support it. And then all the safety testing. It is more involved than just adding more kWh, if the car even has the space for it.But don't a 500 miles range Model S Plaid+ with 4680 Cells had been previously announced?
And the Model S/X wheelbase of 116" is very similar to the Model 3/Y wheelbase of 113".
So a Super Long Range LR+ could potentially be available.