True, but the 'Not a Tesla App' site generally lists what those improvements are, even if the car doesn't.It likely would have been listed as "cold weather improvements" sometime in 2021.
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True, but the 'Not a Tesla App' site generally lists what those improvements are, even if the car doesn't.It likely would have been listed as "cold weather improvements" sometime in 2021.
You're making some assumptions that Tesla only changes this in the UI by not exposing the setting anymore. They could just as easily nuke the API (ODB2 information I think?) associated with controlling regen. There's no update Abstract Ocean could do that would restore the functionality in this scenario.
LOL, based on a two letter reply "OK" from Elon when asked about the possibility of track mode for people who purchased acceleration boost. That entire story is making rock soup out of a throw away two letter twitter reply from Elon!On that note:
Tesla Track Mode coming to non-Performance models
Tesla's Track Mode is coming to non-performance models in a future software update.www.notateslaapp.com
A girl can dream, can't she?LOL, based on a two letter reply "OK" from Elon when asked about the possibility of track mode for people who purchased acceleration boost. That entire story is making rock soup out of a throw away two letter twitter reply from Elon!
Elon promised track mode for the MYP years ago... we are still waiting.
Keith
Sure.A girl can dream, can't she?
They’ll get to it right after “true” FSD (“car will drive itself from LA to NYC”).Sure.
Just don't get your heart broken by Elon... he does that to everyone who listens to his promises.
Keith
I'm only pointing out the probability != 0 that changes permanently break anything sniffing and injecting ODB2 .Controlling regen is an integral part of track mode in the Model 3, and it is part of the early model Y and Model 3 that have "standard" and "Low" regen options. So, they can't nuke it completely without getting ride of the "standard or low" option the early cars have. Even if they chose to get ride of standard and low regen on the early cars they would have to diverge the MY code further from the M3 code in order to keep track mode on the Model 3. They could do this if they had a good reason... I don't see a good reason to go to that much work... and also, if they went to all this work to get ride of regen adjustability on the model Y they would be admitting that they have no intention of giving MYP track mode.
Keith
@Fourdoor Interesting, I didn't know that before your post. A quick search turned up this tweet, is this what you're referring to?Elon promised track mode for the MYP years ago... we are still waiting.
So you need to ease off the accelerator slowly .. that's the nature of 1-pedal driving. The point of the "foot off" rule (which also, btw, does NOT apply to stick shifts for similar reasons) is to allow the car to roll with the snow to maintain grip .. which with regen means easing back gently, just as you ease forward gently when you want to speed upSo after a process of elimination, this appears to be due to regenerative braking. So the standard safety driving practice of take your foot off the accelerator and do not brake cannot be applied to Y, because as soon as you take the foot off the accelerator, Y automatically starts to apply regen braking causing the skid.
So you need to ease off the accelerator slowly .. that's the nature of 1-pedal driving. The point of the "foot off" rule (which also, btw, does NOT apply to stick shifts for similar reasons) is to allow the car to roll with the snow to maintain grip .. which with regen means easing back gently, just as you ease forward gently when you want to speed up
OMG .. patent it at once!!!Soooooo, what you are saying is we need a clutch pedal!
Keith
Already exists in the form of the S3XY buttons, set one of the buttons to reduce regen to zero and put it on the dead pedalOMG .. patent it at once!!!
No, the car should use high-powered forward facing lasers to melt the snow in front of the wheels .. and also get rid of any annoying pedestrians/dogs etc that get in the way.Already exists in the form of the S3XY buttons, set one of the buttons to reduce regen to zero and put it on the dead pedal
Keith
PS: In reality of course the car senses the locked wheels and reduces regen almost instantly to compensate all on it's own... we are just spoiled and don't like that momentary skid before the wheels start turning again.
Regen bias is 100:0. All of the regen is on the rear axle only. This is one of the things that causes so many problems with strong regen in slippery conditions.
Keith
We are just spoiled and don't like that momentary skid before the wheels start turning again.
While I agree it is nice if the car can do as much as it can to overcome your lack of driving skill, as you suggest, I really feel like having the right tires largely takes care of this problem. I drive icy downhill turns almost daily for 6 months a year. Putting studded Hakks on my Y completely changed things in that regard.A 1-second lockup of the rear wheels when slowing on an icy downhill turn (like eastbound I-94 entering St. Paul going under Wabasha bridge) can get you passed by your own rear end.
I think it's fair to say that you have to not yank your foot off the accelerator in any car (especially FWD... Bolt in L mode was bad!). But it sounds like (due to regen) new Tesla users need to drive "better" than they did in their Rav4, to avoid spinning-out while slowing+turning on ice. I think Tesla is better than that. Per TeslaBjorn's videos, the Volvo EVs maintain traction on deceleration through turns better than Tesla (at the cost of efficiency). I don't see a need for Tesla to play second fiddle to Volvo on this. I really don't care about efficiency on in-metro driving on ice. Not saying Tesla is bad; just that it's not the best EV for this, and could improve.
I’ve noticed that city speeds stopping on ice is *easier* with regen than normal brakes, maybe because of the rear bias of the former? (Inductions & stock tires.)A 1-second lockup of the rear wheels when slowing on an icy downhill turn (like eastbound I-94 entering St. Paul going under Wabasha bridge) can get you passed by your own rear end.
I think it's fair to say that you have to not yank your foot off the accelerator in any car (especially FWD... Bolt in L mode was bad!). But it sounds like (due to regen) new Tesla users need to drive "better" than they did in their Rav4, to avoid spinning-out while slowing+turning on ice. I think Tesla is better than that. Per TeslaBjorn's videos, the Volvo EVs maintain traction on deceleration through turns better than Tesla (at the cost of efficiency). I don't see a need for Tesla to play second fiddle to Volvo on this. I really don't care about efficiency on in-metro driving on ice. Not saying Tesla is bad; just that it's not the best EV for this, and could improve.
I haven't had a RWD since a Volvo 264 in the 80s-early 90s, but my recollection is that engine braking-induced skids were more controlled, more correctable. Front wheel drive plus front-bias braking is the worst of both worlds. So yeah, Tesla's rear bias should be better than a front bias. It's more like a RWD car with automatic transmission, set in "D3": the engine braking is nicely at the rear, but is maybe stronger than desirable on ice. If you modulate when lifting your foot, it's fine, but this is something that new EV drivers would need to learn.I’ve noticed that city speeds stopping on ice is *easier* with regen than normal brakes, maybe because of the rear bias of the former? (Inductions & stock tires.)