Zilla91
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Why not broaden your horizons a bit and try something else? This looks like a good deal and the reviews of it are pretty goodComing to the end of my PCP. March
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Why not broaden your horizons a bit and try something else? This looks like a good deal and the reviews of it are pretty goodComing to the end of my PCP. March
9.5% on the 3!The APR is low on the Model Y. I think it’ll only be high on the Model 3 while they get the early adopters that want the new gen. Once they run that backlog off and need to stimulate demand the APR will drop. EV sales aren’t doing all that well in the current economic climate plus some reluctance from some of the public.
Yeah exactly. They are just milking the early adopters, it’ll drop I think maybe in 3 - 6 months I suspect.9.5% on the 3!
Shame nobody gives a sh1t about the loyal customers.Yeah exactly. They are just milking the early adopters
It’s just business.Shame nobody gives a sh1t about the loyal customers.
Agree. But with Musk’s flip-floppping, I’ll order next week and in 4 weeks it will be 0% APR, 5% cheaper and 5000 miles of superchargingIt’s just business.
As an example I had a BMW 335d, M5, M760Li and a Mini Clubman from a BMW dealer in the space of maybe 5 - 6 years. The guy I dealt with left the dealership and when I wanted a BMW M8 Convertible they didn’t seem all that interested in speaking to me. So I don’t buy from them anymore…
There's nothing bang for buck out there to get you the grin inducing performance of the M3P.Coming to the end of my PCP. March
With various leaks via the service manual it is suggested there may be a forthcoming ludicrous M3 including sport seats based on the Model S. In other models 'ludicrous' is a step-up in performance so probably worth waiting to see (if wipers, poor matrix lights, vision without sensors, no stalks, screen for gear change, unpredictable software etc etc are all acceptable). However if @Pagemakers needs a car by March it's debatable whether this will be available and almost certainly without any incentives.There's nothing bang for buck out there to get you the grin inducing performance of the M3P.
If you're not that attached to that performance then there are options.
I think it will come, it may actually have improved motors, not three though, which is what's taking the time.My issue is not that there’s no P available, it’s the poor performance of vision-only.
Why not go a bit more bonkers with the N?I think it will come, it may actually have improved motors, not three though, which is what's taking the time.
Otherwise I'm a sucker for the Ioniq 5 AWD, sucker for the 80s ness of it
My issue is not that there’s no P available, it’s the poor performance of vision-only.
I was very close to buy a Volvo instead of a Highland, but ended up with the Highland only because of the following things
- Efficiency
- Charging speed
- Range
- Charging network
- Software
Reason for considering a Volvo
- Customer service (Tesla has none)
- Build quality
- Paint that doesn't peel off after just one winter on salted roads
- Matrix lights that actually works and turns when turning the steering wheel so that it is possible to see what is in the turn at night
- Comfort
Why would they? What benefit does it bring them?Shame nobody gives a sh1t about the loyal customers.
Yeah but that’s because they need to because otherwise demand isn’t high enough right now.Fair enough but they offer said incentives on the S, Y and X
Generally speaking a lot of businesses value existing customers because they repeat purchase and become advocates for the brand. Churn of your customer base is often a measure companies talk ofWhy would they? What benefit does it bring them?
Not being funny but when people say this I wonder what relationship they imagine they have with these profit-seeking companies that they think they are somehow indebted to your custom.
You don't get a "loyal customer" discount off of a new iPhone or any other bit of tech really. You tend to only see incentives when these companies are hurting for demand. If Tesla can sell a car 10 times over that they would have sold to you with a discount as a loyal customer, then they have no incentive to offer you that discount in the first place.
The comment I made was taken out of context - the comment was specific to presence/absence of stalks. I don’t think anyone has bought the car other than paying the £200 deposit. There is not much of personal experience in UK other than few LHD Model S without stalks. Informed decisions are pretty clear here - if you want stalks buy something else or wait for Tesla to provide that as an option. There is nothing wrong in saying that. I guess you want Elon/Tesla to revert their decision of not including stalk and may want them to throw in some apology to British public. I am sorry you may be right about stalks but this is someone else’s decision. You can express your dissatisfaction and then decide what you want to do with that.I do not own Tesla, so just by criticising or pushing imagined false positive view isn’t going to change the presence or absence of stalks!but dismissing valid criticism, or pushing false positive views does and trying to sweep value issues under the carpet is negligence.
The problem is, without people reading about issues (with anything), they cannot make an informed decision and the manufacturers won't be embarrassed into doing anything about them. And by the time you have committed to something, it may be too late to change your mind. Its pathetic the stuck record of 'go buy something else then' when the reality is that its not always possible. I tried (ordered an EV6), until pretty much overnight the £ gap to move on changed from 10k to near 30k.
People change their views over time whether it is about a car or relationship or their partner, or any other material stuff. I guess that is considered ‘normal’.My personal view of Tesla and their cars now is very different to the one that I thought that I was buying into 6+ years ago and had blindly idolised prior to that. As they say, don't meet your hero.
Tesla has adjusted the ratio, moving from 10.3:1 to 10.6:1, requiring the driver to use more steering input for the same turn.