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Software Update 2018.21.9 75bdbc11
- Thread starter James*
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I just realized that the release notes for this new update aren't the same here than what some of you people had.
More precisely, apparently the on/off-ramp feature isn't listed in the release notes here in Belgium (and possibly in Europe).
Same here in Czech. So whole Europe...
PS: It's quite interesting how a car behaves differently in different countries. And no, I don't mean just difference between EU and US, but there are some differences between Czech and Germany for example...
PatrickCH4313
Member
We got yesterday the first Nav update in Switzerland .I'm eagerly waiting for the updated Nav. Are you really 100% sure that a Belgian owner with a MCU1 car got the update? Not that I don't believe you, but this is the first I heard of
Regarding 21.9 version I think it is awesome on my AP2.5 car. I usually rest a few fingers on the steering wheel when driving and previous versions gave me nags from time to time. Yesterday after having installed 21.9 I successfully drove for 40 minutes on the motorway without having a single nag. This was not possible with previous versions.
GlmnAlyAirCar
Active Member
Are you AP1 or AP2? AP1 didn't get the off-ramp feature, although there is no technical reason why AP1 can't support it.I just realized that the release notes for this new update aren't the same here than what some of you people had.
More precisely, apparently the on/off-ramp feature isn't listed in the release notes here in Belgium (and possibly in Europe).
SeBsZ
Former Vendor
I'm AP2 and don't have it either. It's a US only thing for now - and only shows up in the US release notes. (Canada as well?)
chwall P90DL
Member
A tweet from Elon in response to a complaint about this update:
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1006755636141424640?s=20
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1006755636141424640?s=20
PatrickCH4313
Member
SeBsZ
Former Vendor
When I say pressure I don’t mean grip, I mean resistance. I shouldn’t have to put more resistance on the wheel just to stop it nagging at me.
Oh and today it decided to swerve when it saw a speed camera, naturally it wasn’t due to the speed camera but not great looking like a drunk driver having to take over from AP
MangroveMike
Member
I thought it was just me. Every time I take it to service centre (160kms away) it goes quiet.
boonedocks
MS LR Blk/Blk 19”
Tesla is adjusting screen alerts to address Autopilot "nag" complaints
Don't know if Tesla is going to tweak the algorithm for sensing "hands on wheel", hopefully so OR will they pull a full on "Apple-Gate".....You are holding your phone wrong and that's why it doesn't work!!!!
Apple responds to iPhone 4 reception issues: you're holding the phone the wrong way
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They have an unfixable design flaw but they will never admit it. They will try to smooth it over as well as they can, forcing drivers into the less safe option of having only one hand on the wheel instead of two, because the torque sensor can't detect two hands on the wheel because each hand cancels out the torque of the other.
I wonder if they will start doing eye tracking with the cabin-facing camera in the M3. I also wonder if they will be held liable for a person who gets into an accident with one hand resting on the wheel because suddenly autopilot jerked the wheel at 80mph and one hand wasn't enough to regain control. (Not a chance of that lawsuit being proven, I think they're safe. Too bad we're all less safe...)
I'm waiting for the day that Tesla officially states that you have to have only one hand on the wheel to overcome the nags! Of course they won't. Watch, their public statements on the matter will be very carefully worded to avoid recommending one hand on the wheel, even though that's the only option that makes Autopilot worth engaging at all.
Edit, to clarify about Autopilot being worth engaging at all: I mean that if I have to constantly "move the wheel up and down" as Elon tweeted, it is not worth engaging Autosteer. Autosteer would totally be worth engaging if I could simply keep both hands on the wheel passively (until it became necessary to be active), but the torque sensor can't detect this, so you have to have one hand on the wheel passively, or two hands actively. One hand passive is less safe, two hands active makes Autosteer completely pointless.
BTW, whenever I read the articles about a crash and Tesla comes out proclaiming that "hands were not detected on the wheel for 6 seconds leading up to the crash", I think about my own experience of having my hands on the wheel constantly but still getting nagged -- just because Tesla did not detect hands on the wheel leading up to the crash does not mean hands were not on the wheel. Not detected for 6 seconds tells me hands were probably on the wheel but undetected. Not detected for 60 seconds is a different story.
Autopilot buddy, here I come. This will surely backfire as a safety measure. Most people will be driven to use autopilot buddy to get rid of the nags once and for all. Some will simply never use Autopilot, except in very limited circumstances. This is a VERY bad move. I hope Tesla will realize that.
BozieBeMe2
May I have this dance?
what I have noticed is that the moment is WHEN, regen kicks in.
Meaning - if you are above a certain speed, it tries to feather the amount so as to not create a sudden braking effect.
It does get increasingly stronger as you approach a complete braking event though.
I try to anticipate this and let off the accelerator at different lengths from the braking point.
Otherwise you are whip sawing the passengers
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