So if you type in that URL it brings you to the EPA data for the 2019 SR+. So screwy!
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SR/SR+ (Model 3 RWD) Waiting Room
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martinmac85
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Yikes, seems like there's an issue for sure. I'd call Tesla right away and see what's up.
asquared17
driving M3SR+ white/black no upgrades 😎
i’m sorry, i phrased that badlyI told my SA that I specifically want an LFP pack SR+ and he said, he notated my request on my account. If I'm unable to get an LFP SR+, I'll have to go for the LR Model 3... I really don't want to spend the extra money, so I'm hoping it all works out.
i don’t doubt that your SA noted this — more that it seems to be something beyond their control, especially since many of them are unclear which is which at time of delivery.
of course you can refuse the delivery if it’s not an LFP but my thought process is that since the new EPA is listed as 262 (new LFP range post-software update) and not 263 (the NCA range), tesla is under no obligation to guarantee one or the other. depending on production, cars that were canceled, etc — some deliveries may just be luck of the draw at the EOQ push and beyond, especially given the long wait dates now.
i really hope you get the car you want!!
I ended up snagging a car off existing inventory this morning. They already transferred my $250. Super easy, delivery scheduled for Monday. I know this will probably change but I’m not supper worried. Just relieved I don’t have to wait until March.
i think they say 24h before delivery appt, but at least for me it was like 3h before
mackie99
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Thanks...for me it was exactly 23 hours and 59 minutes until I get the email. LOL!
RichardMa0830
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Isn't tomorrow your car's scheduled arrival date?i’m sorry, i phrased that badly
i don’t doubt that your SA noted this — more that it seems to be something beyond their control, especially since many of them are unclear which is which at time of delivery.
of course you can refuse the delivery if it’s not an LFP but my thought process is that since the new EPA is listed as 262 (new LFP range post-software update) and not 263 (the NCA range), tesla is under no obligation to guarantee one or the other. depending on production, cars that were canceled, etc — some deliveries may just be luck of the draw at the EOQ push and beyond, especially given the long wait dates now.
i really hope you get the car you want!!
I'll likely order a LR if it does go through, I'll see what life is like with the NCA SR+ I'm scheduled to pick up tomorrow.
My flight got cancelled a few hours ago so I have to drive the ~700 mi round trip now.
At least the ride back will be fun.
So it seems like the LFP battery is more desired than the NCA. If that is the case, besides the fact that you can charge to 100%, what other benefits does it have?
Will the performance decrease a little since it is a heavier car?
Is the degredation rate lower since the battery will have to go through less charge cycles?
Will the performance decrease a little since it is a heavier car?
Is the degredation rate lower since the battery will have to go through less charge cycles?
SaintMickey®
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Just picked up ours. Saw this article when I was researching...among others.
LFP Battery Pros
- LFP (LiFePO4) is very underappreciated and often confused with Li-ion (which is a different chemistry). There are lots of advantages - I prefer them.
- Pros (compared to Li-ion):
- Much longer life cycle (10,000+ cycles in some cases - millions of miles).
- Non-toxic, cobalt free and YES - nickel free. Lots of issues with Cobalt too (a whole story there).
- Much cheaper in theory. Already under $100/kWh in China.
- Safety. Aside from being non-toxic, LiFePO4 is also much more stable - less prone to explosion or fire from misuse or structural damage.
- Lower internal resistance. This means they can deliver power faster than Li-ion (better acceleration ect). Also it should mean higher charge/discharge efficiency *I couldn't find clarification there*.
- Very consistent discharge voltage (less power loss as they run out of charge).
- Long shelf life.
- Lower voltage (3.2v compared to 3.7).
- Lower energy density. From what I understand it's somewhere between 15 and 25%. But because of the long life cycle, after sometimes as little as 1 year of ownership, they'll actually have more capacity compared to a similar weight Li-ion (LiCoO2) battery.
- That's actually pretty much it. Just energy density.
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Great summary, i would like to add one Cons here, cold temperature will affect lfp battery performance.Just picked up ours. Saw this article when I was researching...among others.
LFP Battery Pros
LFP Battery Cons
- LFP (LiFePO4) is very underappreciated and often confused with Li-ion (which is a different chemistry). There are lots of advantages - I prefer them.
- Pros (compared to Li-ion):
- Much longer life cycle (10,000+ cycles in some cases - millions of miles).
- Non-toxic, cobalt free and YES - nickel free. Lots of issues with Cobalt too (a whole story there).
- Much cheaper in theory. Already under $100/kWh in China.
- Safety. Aside from being non-toxic, LiFePO4 is also much more stable - less prone to explosion or fire from misuse or structural damage.
- Lower internal resistance. This means they can deliver power faster than Li-ion (better acceleration ect). Also it should mean higher charge/discharge efficiency *I couldn't find clarification there*.
- Very consistent discharge voltage (less power loss as they run out of charge).
- Long shelf life.
- Lower voltage (3.2v compared to 3.7).
- Lower energy density. From what I understand it's somewhere between 15 and 25%. But because of the long life cycle, after sometimes as little as 1 year of ownership, they'll actually have more capacity compared to a similar weight Li-ion (LiCoO2) battery.
- That's actually pretty much it. Just energy density.
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Tesla CEO Elon Musk last month indicated Tesla will make a big battery shift to LFP batteries. But what are the pros and cons of the LFP batteries in standard range Tesla vehicles?
Tesla's New Battery Might Prevent Vehicle Fires
Tesla rumored to change Model 3 and Y battery type
SaintMickey®
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martinmac85
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I know right? lol I really hope Tesla starts making every SR+ with the LFP battery pack. I am 100% not interested in owning an SR+ with the NCA pack.That’s not Tesla’s fault why would anyone live in a cold climate…
asquared17
driving M3SR+ white/black no upgrades 😎
GUESS WHO IS GONNA BE CALLING THE DC LIKE A PSYCHO TOMORROW TO TRY + TAKE EARLY DELIVERY????Isn't tomorrow your car's scheduled arrival date?
Good luck for tomorrow, hope there are no delays or any quality issues
Kick ass and take names, a-squared! Good luck to you!GUESS WHO IS GONNA BE CALLING THE DC LIKE A PSYCHO TOMORROW TO TRY + TAKE EARLY DELIVERY????
haloHalo45
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I’m excited for you!GUESS WHO IS GONNA BE CALLING THE DC LIKE A PSYCHO TOMORROW TO TRY + TAKE EARLY DELIVERY????
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